Would you please explain what firebug is and where do get the documentation? Susie From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:56 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: How Does JAWS Treat These CSS Parameters? Jim, Have you tried using Firebug to identify the style / classes applied to the element when it is not performing as you would like? Firebug is a bit of a pain to get your head around, but it is a very powerful DOM inspection tool. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-07-16, at 6:48 AM, Homme, James wrote: Hi, Thanks folks. Much appreciated. Something else has to be going on with this thing then. Jim Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog<http://mysites.highmark.com/personal/lidikki/Blog/default.aspx>. Discuss accessibility here<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/default.aspx>. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/Accessibility%20Wiki/Forms/AllPages.aspx> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E.J. Zufelt Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 6:45 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: How Does JAWS Treat These CSS Parameters? Hey, JAWS 11 will honour both display: none and visibility: hidden. Because screen-readers do honour these CSS properties it then actually becomes tricky to find a way to design a CSS class that will hide information visually but keep it available for screen-readers. Everett Zufelt http://zufelt.ca Follow me on Twitter http://twitter.com/ezufelt View my LinkedIn Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/ezufelt On 2010-07-16, at 6:41 AM, Homme, James wrote: Hi, I'm not actually sure that the code works correctly. It's generated by a huge application that's like a black box. Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog<http://mysites.highmark.com/personal/lidikki/Blog/default.aspx>. Discuss accessibility here<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/default.aspx>. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/Accessibility%20Wiki/Forms/AllPages.aspx> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X! Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:46 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: How Does JAWS Treat These CSS Parameters? It works for me here, are you sure you are selecting the right part of the page and that the code works correctly? HTH, D!J!X! ________________________________ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:19 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: How Does JAWS Treat These CSS Parameters? Hi, This question involves JAWS 11. It seems like JAWS is not honoring display:none in a style sheet on the web. My question is: how does it treat display:none and how does it treat display:hidden? It seems like it's allowing things to display even though the CSS has display:none. Thanks. Jim Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog<http://mysites.highmark.com/personal/lidikki/Blog/default.aspx>. Discuss accessibility here<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/default.aspx>. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice<http://collaborate.highmark.com/COP/technical/accessibility/Accessibility%20Wiki/Forms/AllPages.aspx> ________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. The views expressed in this e-mail message do not necessarily represent the views of Highmark Inc., its subsidiaries, or affiliates.