then I'll ask you, was there an "accessibility" option that you needed to turn on in one of the menu's? I herd something about this, saved the post, and its sitting on that *%%@&#^ hard drive that all have probably herd about too many times can you clarify that for me, I'm trying to assemble a short eclipse helpful hints sheet and would love to know if I am remembering correctly. that and if you have time and any notes that you think I should add to my sheet, pass them along and I will gladly put them in it. thanks, inthane, . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and Links to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at: http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at: http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Macarty, Jay {PBSG} To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 12:48 PM Subject: RE: Help with java programming I use Eclipse with JAWS 8.0 almost daily as a part of my job as a senior java specialist. It does take a little getting used to as far as getting around in the screens but is quite accessible. I am currently using version 3.2.1 of Eclipse. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LU Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:51 AM To: programming-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Help with java programming Hello, Please does anyone know of any program that is well compatible with jaws that I can use to write java programs? I tried a program called Eclipse but it's too graphical for Jaws. Yours sincerely, LU Bournemouth, UK