Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online

  • From: Jim Dunleavy <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:06:48 +0100

Hi qubit,

RoboBraille receives files by email and emails back to you a braille
file that can be printed on a braille embosser.
I think Stallman's concerns with server software are not just limited to
issues of privacy and security.
In the case of RoboBraille we are giving away control of the very
algorithms of our own literacy.
At least with proprietary software in your own possession you have the
ability to disassemble or reverse-engineer it.
I see library services making use of it without any heed for the
long-term consequences.

--Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: qubit <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online


> a truely insightful article.
> What was robobraille? automated braille translation? I remember the
> suggestion but missed the controversy, if there was one on this list.
> Thank you for the link.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Dunleavy" <jim.dunleavy@xxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think the warning against server based applications should be retained
in
> some form.
> Some time ago, on this mailing list, there was strong criticism of the
> RoboBraille service.
> The FSF has a more nuanced article about "cloud computing" at:
> http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html
>
> --Jim
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Hofstader <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 9:17 PM
> Subject: Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have spent most of the last nine months working on NPII. I think it is
a
> very good idea and can be managed in a way that can preserve anonymity
while
> having some of its services running on a server. All software written by
> RTF/NPII will have a free software license (I think it will be MIT) but
> third parties, including proprietary software vendors, can use our back
end
> to augment their products.
> >
> > The one problem with NPII is that it is a really big project and raising
> money to move it out of the discussion phase is an arduous process to say
> the least.
> >
> > As I said earlier, I'm collecting criticism and ideas for the next
version
> of the GNU Accessibility Statement and appreciate the feedback.
> >
> > So, I think we can say that this group would prefer the server based
> applications sentence be removed. Now, what do you guys think about
> everything else in the statement?
> >
> > cdh
> > On Mar 27, 2010, at 4:05 PM, qubit wrote:
> >
> > > I didn't see much technical at that website -- just a general overview
> and
> > > FAQ and white paper.  But it is interesting.  I personally wonder if
it
> is
> > > possible to do what they want -- I mean, leveling the playing field
for
> > > everyone with a broad range of disabilities and still allow normal
> > > competition in the software market -- I say this because different
> persons
> > > have different and sometimes conflicting needs, which would require
> > > different support not just on the net infrastructure, but also in
> > > applications.
> > > But it remains to be seen how successful this strategy will be.
> > > Are you a member?
> > > --le
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: "Chris Hofstader" <cdh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 2:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: GNU Accessibility Statement Online
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree that there are legitimate privacy concerns that one should
> > > address when using web-based applications.  I also agree that, other
> > > things being equal, it is better to get a computing job done locally,
> > > without needing an Internet connection.
> > >
> > > I also think that cloud computing offers much potential for people
with
> > > disabilities if managed well.  A coalition of individuals and
> > > organizations in the accessibility field believes this to be the case,
> > > and has proposed a "National Public Inclusive Infrastructure"
described
> > > at the web site
> > > http://npii.org/
> > >
> > > Jamal
> > >
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