RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

  • From: "Aubertin, Gerry" <gaubertin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 10:42:59 -0700

Hello There:

   For what it's worth; The Real Speak Solo Direct synthesizer that comes with 
Jaws 10 and later does not crash when given the forbidden word. This has got to 
be the weirdest bug I have ever come accross. 

   In my humble opinion, the Real Speak voices for Jaws has got to be the 
greatest synthetic speech I have ever heard.

   Also, according to the NVDA-PROJECT.ORG site there is now a human sounding 
English voice for NVDA. I have not downloaded and installed it, but I intend to 
some time. The place to download from is blocked by our company (because it is 
uncatagorized) but one day I will wake up one of the Corporate network guys and 
get his help to download the new NVDA voice.


Gerry Aubertin
Programmer/Analyst
Phone: (519) 271-4840 Ext. 8807

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[programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rasmussen, Lloyd 
[lras@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 10:13 AM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

Window-Eyes 7.2 with Eloquence also locks up on "the word which shall not be 
spoken".  I have not tried entering it into a user dictionary, but this should 
work.  Someone has also written an Eloquence script which perhaps covers this 
case; I haven't tried it out.

Older versions of Window-Eyes had an unlocked version of SAPI 4 Eloquence, so 
they should also work with NVDA.

Lloyd Rasmussen, Senior Project Engineer
National Library Service for the Blind and Physically Handicapped
Library of Congress   202-707-0535
http://www.loc.gov/nls
The preceding opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of the 
Library of Congress, NLS.


-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 1:26 AM
To: Rasmussen, Lloyd; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: youtube video, jaws versus NVDA

Hi -- to guard against this word, I added an entry for the word in the jaws 
default dictionary.  It is possible to do this without locking up if you are 
careful and don't do a sayline as you are typing the entry.  Go to the 
dictionary manager with insert+d, type control+shift+d to get to the global 
dictionary, press the add button and follow the prompts.  I put there an entry 
with the word as the dictionary and the replacement string as a jaws sound 
effect followed by the offending word broken into syllables.
This completely solves the problem -- well, there is one catch: if you enter 
the dictionary and arrow down through the entries, jaws will try to speak the 
word untranslated, so be sure to avoid doing this without changing synthesizers 
in jaws first.

I am running jaws 11.0.1461 on XP pro.

You should avoid putting the word in emails for the sake of those who haven't 
gotten jaws shielded from it.

Again, the problem is not jaws, it is eloquence.  In fact, I run talks with 
eloquence on my cell phone, and talks locks up on that word to the point that I 
need to reboot the phone to get back to a workable state.

Happy hacking.
--le

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