Re: FW: Silverlight accessibility (fwd)

  • From: Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:01:53 -0400

Here is what 90% of FS listens to when it comes to accessibility.
Those that pay for the program, but they don't use the program.
Those that use the program 10% and some put on black lists and given hard times about getting keys renewed. Do you think if those that do use it paid for it. Would of bought something that is worse then one for free? Money talks and those that use the program ain't got the money to buy it. That is why it is what it is. They keep it that way, because there really ain't much better out there to use. And sheep fallow sheep! 

At 02:36 PM 4/12/2010, you wrote:
*sigh* someone hand me a brick and point me at the FS big wigs, no actually, make that a battering ram, hitting them in the head with a brick would have little effect obviously! 

elf
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Silverlight accessibility (fwd)
The message with my screen reader comparisons was included (and still is at the bottom of this message). It was not far down, so if they had real interest in the topic, it would have been found. In fact, the only message in this chain that explained the JAWS problem also made comparisons with Window-Eyes and NVDA.
Unfortunately, however, it appears that those comparisons were ignored. No explanation was offerred as to why JAWS works worse than other screen readers with Silverlight. Also, no explanation was given as to why JAWS does not work with other Silverlight controls besides the TextBox one that was mentioned. 

Jamal

On 4/6/2010 8:52 PM, Sina Bahram wrote:
Did you respond with how NVDA works with it or how windoweyes at least does more than jaws? 

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui 
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 7:58 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: FW: Silverlight accessibility (fwd)

Here is the response I got from FS on this topic.

Jamal
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: FW: Silverlight accessibility (fwd)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 23:55:02 -0400
From: Freedom Scientific Support<support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To:<support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Organization: Freedom Scientific
To:<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
CC: EResponse<E_Response@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Dear Jamal
Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. SilverLight's accessibility does not include support for text edit areas. This is the reason for the JAWSR screen reading software issues with SilverLight. If I can be of any additional assistance 
to you, feel free to email me back.
Be sure to include all previous correspondence pertaining to this matter when replying to this message so that we might better 
assist you.

   Regards,
Mr. Tracey Jackson,
Technical Support Specialist
Freedom Scientific

Phone support: 727 803 8600, option #2
E-mail Support: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Visit our website at:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: Jamal Mazrui [mailto:empower@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 2:43 PM
To: Freedom Scientific Technical Support; Eric Damery
Subject: Re: Silverlight accessibility (fwd)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:10:03 -0500
From: qubit<lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Silverlight accessibility
Hi Jamal -- Perhaps this is an afterthought, but have you forwarded this information to FS support? (They have enough to deal with with the stuff I have forwarded to them, but maybe this is something that needs to be 
addressed.)
--le
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To:<JAWSScripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;<ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 9:54 AM
Subject: Silverlight accessibility
FYI: I just tried the following Silverlight site with the latest versions of three screen readers: 

http://all-access.cbssports.com/player.html?code=wisyou

It seemed to work well with NVDA 2010.1, worked partially with Window-Eyes
7.2 public beta 1, and did not work at all with JAWS 11.0.756.
I thought one of the major feature enhancements of JAWS 11 is support for UIA, the accessibility API that Silverlight uses instead of MSAA (Silverlight controls are a subset of Windows Presentation Foundation, the successor to Windows Forms in the .NET Framework). Is some kind of manual configuration needed to make the latest JAWS work with Silverlight? I tried both IE 7 and 
Firefox 3.6.

Jamal

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