RE: Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want to know!

  • From: Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:31:07 -0400 (EDT)

I got the code from Ken that incorporated work done by Pearson and Roth.
 I had no direct contact with them and do not know how much was theirs.
I think Ken should be listed above them.  There had been talk of doing
VS scripts for over a year, but it was Ken who actually got the project
into the community and gave it momentum.

Jamal
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008, Ken Perry
wrote:

> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:02:22 -0700
> From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want to know!
>
>
>
> Parson I think might need to be farther don't he list.  I think he only
> added one bit I am not sure though if Jamal thinks he should be up with him
> don't matter to me but from what I understand he didn't do anything but add
> a bit.
>
> Ken
>
>   _____
>
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andreas Stefik
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:51 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want to
> know!
>
>
> Lol,
>
> Yaa, I know the way science writes down authors is pretty silly --- no
> argument from me! Thanks for everyone's responses, I'll go with the
> following order, as it seems to be the consensus:
>
> Mazrui, Jamal and Pearson, Will and Roth, Travis and Perry, Ken and Bahram,
> Sina and Torpey, Peter
>
> Thanks all,
>
> Andreas
>
> P.S. If there is a spelling mistake here on your name, or you want to
> discuss the matter further, you are welcome to get in touch with me off
> list.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> I have no disagreement with the characterizations folks have
> given on this question.
>
> Jamal
>
> On
> Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Andreas Stefik wrote:
>
> > Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 13:58:44 -0700
> > From: Andreas Stefik <stefika@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want to
> know!
>
> >
> > Thanks, Folks.
> >
> > Scientific papers list contributors in the order by which the largest
> > contribution was made. I know that's a somewhat subjective way of doing
> > things (and it is pretty subjective in science writing in general), but
> > that's just the way it is. Any idea which ordering would be the most fair
> in
> > this case?
> >
> > After reading the posts, my "guess" as to what is fair, would be:
> >
> > Will Pearson, Travis Roth, Jamal Mazrui, Ken Perry, Sina Bahram, Peter
> > Torpey
> >
> > Anyone else have any thoughts? Jamal, what do you think (If you are
> reading
> > this post?)
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 24, 2008 at 3:16 AM, Ricks Place <OFBGMail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >  Hi:
> > > Those guys Ken mentions are the main folks I remember as some of the
> root
> > > developers. Will Pearson was one of the most interesting of all the
> gurus.
> > > He was a Microsoft VIP and had an amazing understanding of the MS
> > > development environment from a practicle and theoretical perspective. If
> I
> > > remember he was working on his PHD over in England. Eventually he had
> other
> > > projects whichhave dragged him away from posting much on list but he was
> an
> > > amazing intellect when it came to anything Microsoft related.
> > > I think Ken or Sina or Inthane might know how you might contact him if
> you
> > > want to do a short bio on the guys. Ken, Sina, Inthane and others
> continue
> > > posting on list and are very sharp, experienced  and well educated
> minds. Inthane has built the backbone of the blind repository for allot of
> > > documentation and is, or was, a student if I remember. A short bio in a
> > > University peer publication would be a nice little pat on the back for
> those
> > > folks who opened up the Visual Studio Programming Environment to the
> rest of
> > > us.
> > > Rick Farmington Mich. USA
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
>
> > > *From:* Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2008 8:59 PM
> > > *Subject:* RE: Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want
> to
> > > know!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I looked all the contributors were listed in the top of the
> > > script file.  In fact I just opened it with my reply and here is what it
> > > says
> > >
> > >
> > > ;Contributors (alphabetically): Sina Bahram, Jamal Mazrui, Will Pearson,
> > > Ken Perry, Travis Roth, Peter Torpey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now with that said if you want to know kind of a chronology to things it
> > > started with Will and Travis  working with Microsoft.  I am not sure if
> > > Travis worked with Microsoft directly but I know Will was.  They had
> created
> > > a lot of basic scripts for it.  I then came along and asked if anyone
> had
> > > wrote anything.  Both travis and Will told me they had stuff but it was
> not
> > > ready for release.  I asked them for their code so I could put something
> > > together that people could use until something better came along.  So
> with
> > > their code and a bit of what I wrote the first scripts were born.  After
> > > that jamal has taken the project and ran like a crazed professional line
> > > backer straight through a high school defense.  The others listed have
> done
> > > modifications to fit certain needs.
> > >  ------------------------------
> > > *From:* programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > > programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Stefik
> > > *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2008 12:26 PM
> > > *To:* programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > *Subject:* Did you contribute to the Visual Studio Scripts, I want to
> > > know!
> > >
> > >  Hey everyone,
> > >
> > > It's been a while since I've mailed the list (quite the hectic summer
> for
> > > me, as I was looking for work (I ended up taking a professorship at
> Central
> > > Washington University)).
> > >
> > > So everyone knows, I'm currently working on a journal publication of
> some
> > > of the blind programming work I've been doing over the last few years.
> In
> > > it, I want to site the Visual Studio 2005-8 JAWS scripts available on
> the
> > > grab bag site, and mention them as being the best available scripts for
> the
> > > environment (that I know of!).
> > >
> > > So, what does that mean?
> > >
> > > If you were a primary contributor to the scripts and you would like to
> > > obtain credit, please email in this thread with your full name.
> > > Alternatively, if you don't feel comfortable putting your name out
> publicly,
> > > but want credit, you can email me directly.
> > >
> > > And last, does anyone have an official contributor list? I only want to
> > > cite the top contributors (especially if there are many!), as there
> isn't
> > > much space in publications usually.
> > >
> > > Hope to hear from you, hope everyone is having a great summer.
> > >
> > > Andreas
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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