Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008
- From: Varun Khosla <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:44:27 +0530
Hi,
You can confirm by opening the add new project dialog (ctrl+shift+n).
In the Project Types pane, open the Other Project Types node and
select Setup and Deployment Projects. If this node is available, I
think the associated templates must also be available; choose Windows
Setup in such case.
On 3/26/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Is this available in Express editions?
>
> Don Marang
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:43 AM
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008
>
>> Personally I like Windows Installation package which can be built
>> right from VS 2008 because it is highly accessible (as I find it) and
>> it provides a wealth of features like registry editing, custom desktop
>> and start menu shortcuts, custom application program structure, launch
>> conditions and custom actions and a decent set of dialogs to customize
>> setup user interface.
>>
>> With custom actions, you can run a script or even an executable
>> (behind the seen) during installation to configure something that
>> cannot be done with features the package provides.
>>
>> The minimum prerequisite for an application is .NET framework. Beyond
>> that, you have full control what to specify as a prerequisite; in case
>> of an optional prerequisite, just don't specify anything for it in the
>> installation, instead, when the application runs, at appropriate
>> place, determine whether or not it is available and take action based
>> on that.
>>
>> HTH!
>>
>> On 3/25/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Can you create a Windows Installation package within Visual Studio 2008
>>> or
>>> is it an external tool? Do most of you developers use a Microsoft
>>> Installation packager tool or do you prefer a different tool, like Inno
>>> Setup? What would a installation packager do in the case of the MODI
>>> prerequisites on a computer that does not have Microsoft Office 2003 or
>>> 2007? Would it still fail if my application had an option to select
>>> between
>>> multiple OCR Engines, thus making MODI not a true prerequisite?
>>>
>>> Don Marang
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:06 AM
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The publish command you have seen is for creating click once
>>>> installation for applications that are downloaded and installed in a
>>>> special subdirectory under documents and settings and are subject to
>>>> real-time updates as and when they are available.
>>>>
>>>> The other type of installation is windows installation in which a
>>>> package file (.msi) and a bootstrapper file (setup.exe) are created
>>>> and can be distributed offline and never look for update — although
>>>> you can achieve the same with click once — but it's not ment to be
>>>> used that way.
>>>>
>>>> Well, you can run an executable file from anywhere in your computer
>>>> and on any other machine if the specified system has all the
>>>> dependencies installed. The foremost one (as you mentioned) is the
>>>> .NET framework (the version must be greater than or equal to the one
>>>> used to build the application).
>>>> As you mentioned, you are using Office Imaging app for your
>>>> application, so the same must also be available on the host system.
>>>>
>>>> Yes if you have all the dependencies present on a system, you do not
>>>> need to install the application; however, installation helps in cases
>>>> where you are distributing the application and you do not know whether
>>>> the potential user's system satisfy all the dependency requirements
>>>> and thus you do not want such users to see "fail to run the
>>>> application because ..." or "it's not a valid win32 application ....".
>>>> Instead, the installer automatically installs the required
>>>> dependencies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTH!
>>>>
>>>> On 3/25/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> I have an alpha version of my QuickOCR application ready to post to a
>>>>> personal website. It was written in Visual Basic .Net using Visual
>>>>> Studio
>>>>> 2008. It is meant to be a quick and dirty method to efficiently OCR
>>>>> screen
>>>>> snapshots and files. Currently it relies on the Microsoft Office
>>>>> Document
>>>>> Imageing (MODI) tools in Office 2003 and 2007. It does more than I
>>>>> expected, like MODI officially only supports MDI and some TIFF files.
>>>>> In
>>>>> practice, it handles many others.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would appreciate feedback and I have a few design and deployment
>>>>> questions. The source is at:
>>>>> http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/QuickOCR.html
>>>>>
>>>>> There is an "QuickOCREnhancements.rtf" file that lists the known
>>>>> deficiencies and expresses my future ideas for this application.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not figured out the strange Publish options in Visual Studio.
>>>>> It
>>>>> clearly provides for deployment from a CD or an IIS web server. The
>>>>> most
>>>>> common deployment, a single executable setup file copied or downloaded
>>>>> from
>>>>> anywhere is not so clear. Could someone give me some pointers or
>>>>> direction?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not created Windows applications in over a decade. What are the
>>>>> advantages to having the application installed and involved in the
>>>>> registry
>>>>> fiasco vs just a stand-alone application? Is it possible to have a
>>>>> simple
>>>>> Windows application with a Graphical User Interface which does not
>>>>> require
>>>>> installation? How is this done? Is the executable in the Debug
>>>>> directory
>>>>> useable elsewhere on my computer? Can it be distributed to other
>>>>> computers?
>>>>> I assume at the least, .Net 3.5 must be installed on their computer.
>>>>> Would
>>>>> this be different if the application had no interface, just command
>>>>> line
>>>>> options?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a design layout question as well, but perhaps that should be a
>>>>> separate message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don Marang
>>>>
>>>>
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