Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008

  • From: Varun Khosla <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 19:30:38 +0530

May be Rick; I have never used an express edition, so can't tell. But
yes, if publish command is available, it is surely for click once —
although how much functionality it provides in express, that could be
a thing to look at. however, one does not usually require all those
advance click once features (in case if they are not available in

On 3/26/10, RicksPlace <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi: It is my understanding that the Install Package is not an option in the
> Express modules. However, I just looked in my copy of 2008 Express
> and found the Publish option under the Build Menu so Click Once might be
> available as an option.
> Rick USA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 3:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008
> Personally I like Windows Installation package which can be built
> right from VS 2008  because it is highly accessible (as I find it) and
> it provides a wealth of features like registry editing, custom desktop
> and start menu shortcuts, custom application program structure, launch
> conditions and custom actions and a decent set of dialogs to customize
> setup user interface.
> With custom actions, you can run a script or even an executable
> (behind the seen) during installation to configure something that
> cannot be done with features the package provides.
> The minimum prerequisite for an application is .NET framework. Beyond
> that, you have full control what to specify as a prerequisite; in case
> of an optional prerequisite, just don't specify anything for it in the
> installation, instead, when the application runs, at appropriate
> place, determine whether or not it is available and take action based
> on that.
> HTH!
> On 3/25/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Can you create a Windows Installation package within Visual Studio 2008 or
>> is it  an external tool?  Do most of you developers use a Microsoft
>> Installation packager tool or do you prefer a different tool, like Inno
>> Setup?  What would a installation packager do in the case of the MODI
>> prerequisites on a computer that does not have Microsoft Office 2003 or
>> 2007?  Would it still fail if my application had an option to select
>> between
>> multiple OCR Engines, thus making MODI not a true prerequisite?
>> Don Marang
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Varun Khosla" <varun.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 6:06 AM
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: Deployment with Visual Studio 2008
>>> Hi,
>>> The publish command you have seen is for creating click once
>>> installation for applications that are downloaded and installed in a
>>> special subdirectory under documents and settings and are subject to
>>> real-time updates as and when they are available.
>>> The other type of installation is windows installation in which a
>>> package file (.msi) and a bootstrapper file (setup.exe) are created
>>> and can be distributed offline and never look for update — although
>>> you can achieve the same with click once — but it's not ment to be
>>> used that way.
>>> Well, you can run an executable file from anywhere in your computer
>>> and on any other machine if the specified system has all the
>>> dependencies installed. The foremost one (as you mentioned) is the
>>> .NET framework (the version must be greater than or equal to the one
>>> used to build the application).
>>> As you mentioned, you are using Office Imaging app for your
>>> application, so the same must also be available on the host system.
>>> Yes if you have all the dependencies present on a system, you do not
>>> need to install the application; however, installation helps in cases
>>> where you are distributing the application and you do not know whether
>>> the potential user's system satisfy all the dependency requirements
>>> and thus you do not want such users to see "fail to run the
>>> application because ..." or "it's not a valid win32 application ....".
>>> Instead, the installer automatically installs the required
>>> dependencies.
>>> HTH!
>>> On 3/25/10, Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> I have an alpha version of my QuickOCR application ready to post to a
>>>> personal website.  It was written in Visual Basic .Net using Visual
>>>> Studio
>>>> 2008.  It is meant to be a quick and dirty method to efficiently OCR
>>>> screen
>>>> snapshots and files.  Currently it relies on the Microsoft Office
>>>> Document
>>>> Imageing (MODI) tools in Office 2003 and 2007.  It does more than I
>>>> expected, like MODI officially only supports MDI and some TIFF files.
>>>> In
>>>> practice, it handles many others.
>>>> I would appreciate feedback and I have a few design and deployment
>>>> questions.  The source is at:
>>>> There is an "QuickOCREnhancements.rtf" file that lists the known
>>>> deficiencies and expresses my future ideas for this application.
>>>> I have not figured out the strange Publish options in Visual Studio.  It
>>>> clearly provides for deployment from a CD or an IIS web server.  The
>>>> most
>>>> common deployment, a single executable setup file copied or downloaded
>>>> from
>>>> anywhere is not so clear.  Could someone give me some pointers or
>>>> direction?
>>>> I have not created Windows applications in over a decade.  What are the
>>>> advantages to having the application installed and involved in the
>>>> registry
>>>> fiasco vs just a stand-alone application?  Is it possible to have a
>>>> simple
>>>> Windows application with a Graphical User Interface which does not
>>>> require
>>>> installation?  How is this done?  Is the executable in the Debug
>>>> directory
>>>> useable elsewhere on my computer?  Can it be distributed to other
>>>> computers?
>>>>  I assume at the least, .Net 3.5 must be installed on their computer.
>>>> Would
>>>> this be different if the application had no interface, just command line
>>>> options?
>>>> I have a design layout question as well, but perhaps that should be a
>>>> separate message.
>>>> Don Marang
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