Hi Jay, Would you advise someone new to Java to spend more time on Swing, SWT, or web? Thanks. Jim Jim Homme, Usability Services, Phone: 412-544-1810. Skype: jim.homme Internal recipients, Read my accessibility blog. Discuss accessibility here. Accessibility Wiki: Breaking news and accessibility advice -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 3:31 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO Over the past couple of years, I have been involved in hiring java developers several times. One of the things we have had trouble with is finding people with swing experience. It seems that, while there are certainly a number of applications still using swing heavily, a lot of java development is moving away from swing based GUI interfaces to using web based front-ends. Perhaps, Oracle thinks that a declining interest in using swing as a UI means they don't need to spend as much effort on swing accessibility but that thought path can certainly leave those of us who still need access to heavily swing based apps in a spot. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 8:11 PM Subject: RE: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO Hi Listers, I have not stepped into this until now. I would hope that needing government contracts in the United States would have some affect on all this. I have asked people about swing and I am told it isn't used very much because there is newer technology out there. I am not an experienced Java programmer so maybe the rest of you will know more than I do. I know we use Struts at my building for creation of web projects. If I have just made a fool of myself, it's not the first time and won't be the last. (grin). Susie Stanzel -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2010 7:08 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO hey, this is my usual line, "beat them into submission" lol or hound,or pummel, or... elf Moderator, Blind Access Help Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO > Wow, it only took like 15 emails on the subject, but finally the voice of > reason has made itself known. > > Ken, I completely agree. Now is the time to pressure them into actually > not abandoning it. > > Take care, > Sina > > ________________________________ > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Perry > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 1:10 AM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: RE: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO > > > > If this is true then it's not time to tell people to stay away. It's time > to get people to get active and start emailing and > calling them till they do support it. If we stay away we lose what > accessibility was there. > > > > Ken > > > > > > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Storm Dragon > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 11:09 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Credible rumor that deserves serious consideration, IMHO > > > > Hi, > I would not doubt it for one second. They dropped the ball on Linux > accessibility pretty much first thing when they took over Sun. > It's probably a good idea, if you have influence over software decisions, > to encourage companies, clients, and friends to stay far > far away from Oracle and their software. I was even going to get rid of > Open Office but fortunately the version used in Ubuntu is a > fork so not subject to them. unless, that is, they somehow manage to win > their evil attack on Google. If that happens, who knows who > they will attack next. Keep your fingers crossed, and maybe the open > source community will keep the Bridge going, Orca is still > alive and well after all. > Storm > > -- > > > Registered Linux user number 508465: > http://counter.li.org/ > My blog, Thoughts of a Dragon: > http://www.stormdragon.us/ > Get yourself a Frostbox: > http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ > > > On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 08:15 +0530, prateek aggarwal wrote: > > > oh know, > i wish its just a rumor. > if its ever going to be true, i'll be so said. > > regards, > prateek agarwal. > > > > On 10/9/10, Jamal Mazrui <empower@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> I heard from a good source today that Oracle has decided to discontinue >> support for the Java Access Bridge (and no alternative is planned). I >> would be glad to be convinced otherwise. 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