RE: Computer science textbooks

  • From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 19:30:32 -0400

Well RFBD does have some good AI books but nothing really up to date.  I had
to scan the dragon book back in the day and wish they had it recorded.  I do
wish sometimes they had less language books and more theory.

Ken
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[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tseng
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 7:24 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Computer science textbooks

Yeah; with you on that.  I did my data structures class that way as
well (with a box fulla RFBD tapes).  I actually did my algorithms
class slightly differently; I had a peer cleanup OCR'ed output and
just correct for notation and write text descriptions of
figures/diagrams.  I think that worked out the best out of all the
ways I tried.  However, as kind of a hobby / limited time kind of a
deal, I should just hit up someone for their personal stash :).



On 5/21/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I agree when I took my data structure classes my teachers and I came up
with
> some good ways to do stuff in text files but visualization is something
not
> even accessibility to graphs can actually substitute.   So you're looking
> for more theory based stuff.  The best I can suggest is rfbd books and
> having books recorded.
>
> Ken
>
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> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tseng
> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:34 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Computer science textbooks
>
> Yeah...I love the e-text route (amazing what 24x7 offers as they have
> books from quite a few publishers like MIT Press, Rocks, Microsoft
> Press, etc.).  Bookshare's one that also has some offerings.
>
> However, with all that said, the diagram issue is still what I'm
> finding lacking without either going the human paid reader/translater
> strategy or getting something from RFB&D.
>
> When you're talking about highly technical algorithms or processes,
> the visual aid's are worth trying to understand rather than piecing
> things together from the main textual narrative of the text.  Also, if
> you start getting into any sophisticated mathematical notation, you
> lose all of that in translation.
>
> I guess I could run everything through infty reader, but hoped that
> there would be some other creative ways people have tackled this
> issue.
>
> On 5/21/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Another one that I learned all my linux stuff from back in the 90's is
> still
>> around.  It is books written for computer programmers by computer
>> programmers.
>>
>> http://www.wrox.com
>>
>> There is a lot of other places but that is the one off the top of my
head.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian
> Beijers
>> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:56 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Computer science textbooks
>>
>> Well,
>>
>> THere is
>> www.bookshare.org
>> which has books on a variety of subjects. There's some computer science
>> books but not many, sadly.
>> Usually when I need a book i try to hunt it down somewhere on the web. I
>> know i should be crediting the author and apreciating his work and all
> that
>> but especially here in Holland it's a royal pain to get digitized English
>> books or even dutch ones on that subject, apart from audio which in my
>> opinion just isn't cutting it for this kind of material.
>> There is IRC channels devoted to sharing these texts as well.
>> If you want to go the more legal and conventional route, you could try
>> obtaining a scanning package that does the job well for books. For
example
>> the iRead Now package by handyTech comes with a camera that scans a page
> and
>> does OCr in aproximately five seconds. Now doing this for 700 pages is a
> bit
>> outrageous still but you can do it in chunks.
>>
>> I guess thats the only ways I can think of so far.
>>
>> Florian
>> On May 21, 2011, at 3:07 PM, David Tseng wrote:
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Curious to know what people do for obtaining accessible texts
>>> especially *after* finishing a degree.  Out of personal interest, I'd
>>> like to get a few key books on my bookshelf as reference or just to
>>> deepen my own knowledge of a specific area.  Without access to a
>>> school's lab/resources, I've kind of turned to sources like 24x7,
>>> Safari, and other technical e-book sites, but have found them very
>>> lacking wrt selection, and when they do have a book, varying levels of
>>> access to diagrams.  RFB&D's/Learning Alley's also quite lacking and
>>> listening to CS books can be somewhat mind numbing.
>>>
>>> Short of calling up every university out there or employing my own
>>> diagram to text human translater, what have people done here?  I know
>>> some of us are in industry, so am curious to know.
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