Yeah; with you on that. I did my data structures class that way as well (with a box fulla RFBD tapes). I actually did my algorithms class slightly differently; I had a peer cleanup OCR'ed output and just correct for notation and write text descriptions of figures/diagrams. I think that worked out the best out of all the ways I tried. However, as kind of a hobby / limited time kind of a deal, I should just hit up someone for their personal stash :). On 5/21/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I agree when I took my data structure classes my teachers and I came up with > some good ways to do stuff in text files but visualization is something not > even accessibility to graphs can actually substitute. So you're looking > for more theory based stuff. The best I can suggest is rfbd books and > having books recorded. > > Ken > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Tseng > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 3:34 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Computer science textbooks > > Yeah...I love the e-text route (amazing what 24x7 offers as they have > books from quite a few publishers like MIT Press, Rocks, Microsoft > Press, etc.). Bookshare's one that also has some offerings. > > However, with all that said, the diagram issue is still what I'm > finding lacking without either going the human paid reader/translater > strategy or getting something from RFB&D. > > When you're talking about highly technical algorithms or processes, > the visual aid's are worth trying to understand rather than piecing > things together from the main textual narrative of the text. Also, if > you start getting into any sophisticated mathematical notation, you > lose all of that in translation. > > I guess I could run everything through infty reader, but hoped that > there would be some other creative ways people have tackled this > issue. > > On 5/21/11, Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Another one that I learned all my linux stuff from back in the 90's is > still >> around. It is books written for computer programmers by computer >> programmers. >> >> http://www.wrox.com >> >> There is a lot of other places but that is the one off the top of my head. >> >> Ken >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Florian > Beijers >> Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2011 9:56 AM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Computer science textbooks >> >> Well, >> >> THere is >> www.bookshare.org >> which has books on a variety of subjects. There's some computer science >> books but not many, sadly. >> Usually when I need a book i try to hunt it down somewhere on the web. I >> know i should be crediting the author and apreciating his work and all > that >> but especially here in Holland it's a royal pain to get digitized English >> books or even dutch ones on that subject, apart from audio which in my >> opinion just isn't cutting it for this kind of material. >> There is IRC channels devoted to sharing these texts as well. >> If you want to go the more legal and conventional route, you could try >> obtaining a scanning package that does the job well for books. For example >> the iRead Now package by handyTech comes with a camera that scans a page > and >> does OCr in aproximately five seconds. Now doing this for 700 pages is a > bit >> outrageous still but you can do it in chunks. >> >> I guess thats the only ways I can think of so far. >> >> Florian >> On May 21, 2011, at 3:07 PM, David Tseng wrote: >> >>> Hey guys, >>> >>> Curious to know what people do for obtaining accessible texts >>> especially *after* finishing a degree. Out of personal interest, I'd >>> like to get a few key books on my bookshelf as reference or just to >>> deepen my own knowledge of a specific area. Without access to a >>> school's lab/resources, I've kind of turned to sources like 24x7, >>> Safari, and other technical e-book sites, but have found them very >>> lacking wrt selection, and when they do have a book, varying levels of >>> access to diagrams. RFB&D's/Learning Alley's also quite lacking and >>> listening to CS books can be somewhat mind numbing. >>> >>> Short of calling up every university out there or employing my own >>> diagram to text human translater, what have people done here? 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