I've seen that I can use the virtual PC cursor, however if I want to click on the tab title, I cannot do it with it. And I need this because I cannot select that tab in other way. Here is what I've tried: Opened Commodo, chosen File menu/New/File then chosen perl and pressed enter. Then I've modified something in the file, and pressed control+S to save it. The "Save as..." dialog appeared, and I wanted to cancel it by pressing escape. In that moment the focus was lost. It didn't went to the textarea where it was before pressing control+S. So I was trying to put it back there. I've tried pressing Control+Home but Jaws (8) just spoken some words, possibly the titles of some tabs, or toolbar elements... I don't know, but the focus was not moved to any program element. So I've tried pressing Control+Tab for more times, but nothing happend. After switching to another application then back to Commodo, and a few other control+Tab and tab keys, I've seen that I could move from a tab title to another, but those tab titles were for something else, not for selecting the currently open document. I couldn't get to those tabs, and even if I could do it, I think that Commodo has big bugs, because otherwise it wouldn't lose the focus that way. (If some list members say that it is great and that only Jaws 6 has problems accessing it). That's why I try to move the focus to the wanted tab title by clicking on it with the Jaws cursor. But finally I was able to move the focus to the currently opened file tab title using F6 for more times. It was ok, however I couldn't move the focus from that tab title to the textarea using Control+Tab, or just tab...I've seen that if I have chosen to close it without saving the file, it asked what I wanted to do, but it didn't even offered a hotkey for choosing "Don't save any file" I think that most editors allow us to just press "N" in order to choose a "No", and we don't need to tab for more times in order to be able to press that button.
So it is not a great editor, not even with Jaws 8. Maybe 9?? Or 19? :-)I like some of the ActiveState's programs if they are good, like ActivePerl and Perl Developer Kit, but not their inaccessible GUI ppm or Commodo.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "James Panes" <jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:53 PM Subject: Re: Commodo
Hi Teddy, If you have not already been told by 10 other list members. . . Try using the invisible cursor. It can read objects on the screen without triggering them the way the JAWS cursor does. Regards, Jim jimpanes@xxxxxxxxx jimpanes@xxxxxxxxxxxx "Everything is easy when you know how."----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 12:25 PM Subject: Commodo Hi, I've installed again Jaws 8 because I heard from many of the list members that it works very well with Commodo. However, I found that it works not as bad as Jaws 6, but horrible enough. I told you about that issue that I cannot read the title of the currently opened perl file with the Jaws cursor on the tab title, because Commodo seems to pop-up a menu when I move the Jaws cursor. Well, it seems that this problem is the same with Jaws 8 as with Jaws 6. What were you doing to be able to do that? Thanks. Octavian __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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