Re: C books and IDES

  • From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 10:33:03 -0600

of course it is possible to write c in c++ files. c++ is c with other features bolted on essentially. But there are some differences (the compilers don't really distinguish though, depending). I just wanted to make the point that c still has it's place.

On 4/4/2011 10:19 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I read some C code before (it is actually possible to write C code
within CPP files). Still, I prefer CPP better...
I guess once Jiang gets the required IDE and books/resources, then we
could start teaching him by going over what is C/CPP and where it is
used - and other things as time goes by. Since we use different IDE's,
perhaps some could go over concepts while those who use Eclipse can go
over how to use the IDE to produce programs based on concepts.
For Jiang: Just let us know if you have any more questions...
Hopefully at least one of us could answer your queries...
Cheers,
Joseph

On 4/4/11, Littlefield, Tyler<tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Joseph: Contrary to belief, c is still used all over the place. I
personally prefer c++ for a lot of what I do, but that doens't rule out
C. It really depends on what he wants to do.
On 4/4/2011 9:47 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
As for books, one place is Bookshare (you need to live in United
States to get it) and other free books from Google.
As Tyler said, try using Eclipse (there should be some documentation
on Google).
Personally, I would rather let you learn CPP instead of C mostly
because of compatibility, syntax and availibility.  If you are a
student, I'd say it's better to learn computer science with this
language, since it provides some foundation from where you can learn
more about different styles of programming, how to write complex
programs using simple way of writing things and so forth.
Here's an important question: are you being self-taught (learning by
yourself) or do you plan to learn programming in college or other
schools? If you are self-taught, then we (the programmers) could walk
you step-by-step and get you started (when you are ready, that is).
If you are learning this from school, then we could help you reenforce
what you've learn by giving you some resources for you to look at, as
well as answer questions for you (not schoolwork, that is).
Once you get an IDE or a book, then we could start by going over what
C or CPP really is (like a historical survey and how this language is
used) before moving onto the C version of "Hello World."
Cheers,
Joseph

----- Original Message -----
From: "giang"<hoanggiang1994@xxxxxxxxxxx
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date sent: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 21:17:03 +0700
Subject: Re: C books and IDES

Hi Joseph,
Could you show me where I can find these books, And the userguides of
Eclipse and Borland?
I really don't know a lot about these.
Thank you very much,

Giang
Hoanggiang1994@xxxxxxxxxxx
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From: "Joseph Lee"<joseph.lee22590@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 12:51 PM
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: C books and IDES

Hi Jiang,
Nice to see you - and welcome to the list.
as for C, the best books I read (and heard) were "The C Programming
Language" by kernighan and Ritchie (the programmers who created C),
"Structured Programming" (or the equivalent title) and Designing
Algorithms in C.  Personally, I recommend C++ or slightly modern ones,
as C++ builds on top of C (slightly different syntax and way of
writing things, but shares useful concepts).
As for IDE (Integrated Development Environment), for beginners, I
recommend writing your code in a text editor such as Notepad and using
a command line compiler such as Borland compiler.  If you want a free
IDE, the best one the programmers on this list use are Eclipse and
Visual Studio Express (could you tell us under which OS you'll write
your programs in?).
Just for sake of intro: could you tell us more about yourself like how
you heard about this list, how did you get into programming (a
student, a programmer learning a new language, etc.) and what do you
wish to learn? That way, those who have your experience can understand
your situation and help you better.
Cheers,
Joseph

On 4/2/11, giang<hoanggiang1994@xxxxxxxxxxx>  wrote:
Hi every one,
I'm Giang, a new member.  I'm beginning to learn C programming.  But
now, I
don't know which book is good for me and which IDE is work well with
jaws.
Can you give me some choice?
Thanks in advance

Giang
Hoanggiang1994@xxxxxxxxxxx
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