Yes, he did have some rather emotional comments on the subject, but what does that have to do with this specifically? Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of DaShiell, Jude T. CIV NAVAIR 1490, 1, 26 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:35 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Better: Re: Zumo Drive Importance: Low Richard Stallman had a few things to write about concerning cloud computing and given the adverse security environment the internet has become it probably would be wise for anyone with information assurance/privacy interests to find his writing on clouds and read it before going down that particular road. His writing can be found on cnet.com under the title cloud computing is stupidity. Rot47: <;F56]52D9:6==@?2GJ]>:=> -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler Littlefield Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 23:19 To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive windows does not support ti, and I know windows explorer doesn't support it by default. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield Web: tysdomain.com email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: RE: Better: Re: Zumo Drive > I'm not so sure it does work. Do you have WinSCP or some other program > installed on that win xp image. Such applications will install handlers > for > the protocol, but I don't think, in fact I'm possitive, that windows does > not support sftp. It might support ftp with ssl or something, but I doubt > even that. Sftp is ftp over an ssh connection. > > Take care, > Sina > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bryan > Garaventa > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 11:08 PM > To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive > > I just did, and it works using Win XP Pro when entering > SFTP://ftp.server.com in the address bar. I used my domain login to test > this out, and sftp is a supported login protocol. Appears to work fine. I > can't vouch for other OS's though. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:00 PM > Subject: RE: Better: Re: Zumo Drive > > >>I have not tried secure FTP using Windows Explorer. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler >> Littlefield >> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:24 AM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >> >> windows explorer lets you use sftp? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Tyler Littlefield >> Web: tysdomain.com >> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pranav Lal" <pranav.lal@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:54 PM >> Subject: RE: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >> >> >>> You could always use a server that supports secure FTP. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tyler >>> Littlefield >>> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:49 PM >>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >>> >>> gotcha. It's a great idea, was just pointing out the security problem >>> there. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Tyler Littlefield >>> Web: tysdomain.com >>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 11:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >>> >>> >>>> Yes, this wouldn't be recommended for sensitive data. However, you >>>> still >>>> have the choice to not include the login info, and simply enter this >>>> when >>>> prompted. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 7:30 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >>>> >>>> >>>>> Only problem I see with this is security. If your on a linux system, >>>>> ftp >>>>> accounts are usually tied to shells. You've just handed everyone your >>>>> shell login and password that may be listening on the wire. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Tyler Littlefield >>>>> Web: tysdomain.com >>>>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Bryan Garaventa" <bgaraventa11@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 8:25 PM >>>>> Subject: Better: Re: Zumo Drive >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Actually, there is a very simple way to do this without requiring an >>>>>> outside service. This method makes it possible to access any FTP >>>>>> server >>>>>> in the same manner. You just need to make sure that your login has >>>>>> the >>>>>> right permissions to modify files on the remote server. >>>>>> >>>>>> For instance, I have a ReadyNAS Duo at home, configured as an FTP >>>>>> service. I use www.dyndns.org to update my dynamic ip automatically. >>>>>> So >>>>>> when I want to point to my server, I can use a link like the >>>>>> following >>>>>> >> ftp://Username:Password@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/MyFTPEnabledFolderName >>>>>> >>>>>> So, with such a link, which will work on any FTP service, such as >>>>>> those >>>>>> provided by remote services like Bizland.com, or any other as well, >>>>>> you >>>>>> can do the following to enable one click access: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Go into your Windows folder at >>>>>> c:\windows >>>>>> 2. Right-click the file "Explorer.exe", >>>>>> open Send to, >>>>>> and choose "Desktop (create shortcut)". >>>>>> 3. Now rename this to whatever you want, like "Personal Library" or >>>>>> whatever. >>>>>> 4. Now open the properties for the link, where you will see the >>>>>> following for the Target field >>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe >>>>>> 5. Now, within quotes, add the url to your FTP service at the end of >>>>>> this string, with a space separating the two values like so. >>>>>> C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe >>>>>> >>> > "ftp://Username:Password@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/MyFTPEnabledFolderNam e" >>>>>> 6. Click OK, and that should do the trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can now have Windows Explorer access to any FTP site using this >>>>>> method, from anywhere in the world. And if you have your own server >>>>>> like >>> >>>>>> mine, using a ReadyNAS or similare unit, you can have unlimited >>>>>> storage, >>> >>>>>> such as 2 to 4 TB. The only draw back, is that it won't work in My >>>>>> Computer. Still though, it's free, and you can attach a hotkey to the >>>>>> shortcut. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bryan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: "NFBnet NFBCS Mailing List" <nfbcs@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Cc: <nfb-web@xxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet GUI Talk Mailing List" >>>>>> <gui-talk@xxxxxxxxxx>; <nabs-l@xxxxxxxxxx>; "NFBnet Blind Talk >>>>>> Mailing >>>>>> List" <blindtlk@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Professionals in Blindness Education >>>>>> Division List" <pibe-division@xxxxxxxxxx>; "NFB of Missouri Mailing >>>>>> List" <nfbmo@xxxxxxxxxx>; <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 12:26 PM >>>>>> Subject: Zumo Drive >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Good afternoon everyone, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of you on certain lists probably heard me saying, "I'm >>>>>>> putting >>>>>>> my >>>>>>> files in the clouds." I'm doing this via a neat service I heard >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> Web 2.0 Podcast. The service is called "Zumo Drive." It's a hybrid >>>>>>> cloud >>>>>>> storage application that permits you to store files remotely so >>>>>>> they'll >>> >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> available from any computer you use. Unlike other types of remote >>>>>>> storage >>>>>>> solutions Zumo Drive integrates with your PC and is accessed via My >>>>>>> Computer. Those of you that use external drives know that it appears >>>>>>> as >>> >>>>>>> an >>>>>>> additional drive whenever you enter My Computer or Windows Explorer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Think of Zumo drive as an auxiliary drive without the physical >>>>>>> hardware. >>>>>>> Instead of your files being stored on a physical drive they're >>>>>>> stored >>>>>>> on a >>>>>>> secure remote server which can be accessed from multiple computers >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> mobile phones. This is achieved by downloading and installing the >>>>>>> Zumo >>>>>>> Drive >>>>>>> Application which you can obtain from their Web Site. Both the Zumo >>>>>>> Drive >>>>>>> Web Site and the application are accessible and very easy to use; >>>>>>> particularly because it appears as an additional drive on your >>>>>>> computer. I >>>>>>> believe this is what's commonly called a virtual drive. The only >>>>>>> accessibility glitch I encountered was when I needed to register my >>>>>>> copy >>>>>>> with their service. Using your screen reader's mouse cursor should >>>>>>> allow you >>>>>>> to complete the registration on your own once the "Registration" >>>>>>> Icon >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> activated. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Once installed and your account is created Zumo Drive works >>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>> like >>>>>>> any other drive on your PC. It's possible to store files locally on >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> computer, or save them on your Zumo Drive from within any >>>>>>> application; >>>>>>> although larger files may take longer to save due to their having to >>>>>>> be >>>>>>> transferred to the remote server. It's also possible to save a file >>>>>>> obtained >>>>>>> from another Internet location directly to your Zumo Drive. I did >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> morning and think it's pretty cool. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Depending on their type the files saved remotely will be >>>>>>> downloaded >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> open in the application or in the case of audio and video content >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> stream to your PC. For example I was able to listen to a podcast on >>>>>>> Virtual >>>>>>> Colonoscopy on Mary's computer though the file does not reside on >>>>>>> her >>>>>>> machine. It was a simple matter of opening up QuickTime, and typing >>>>>>> Z:\path\filename. The file opened and the documentary began playing >>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>> as it would if stored on the local machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Upon creating your Zumo Drive Account you receive 1 GB of storage >>>>>>> space >>>>>>> to allow you to try the system out. There are several subscription >>>>>>> plans you >>>>>>> can purchass depending on the amount of remote storage you require. >>>>>>> But >>>>>>> enough from me. For additional information visit: >>>>>>> http://www.zumodrive.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since file storage is always an important concern I wanted to >>>>>>> share >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> information with everyone. All the best for a great weekend. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Peter Donahue >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Given a chance to dream it can be done. >>>>>>> The promise of tomorrow is real. >>>>>>> Children of Spaceship Earth the future belongs to us all." >>>>>>> Flying for Me, >>>>>>> John Denver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________ >>>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> __________ >>>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> __________ >>>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>>> >>>> >>>> __________ >>>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >>> >>> __________ >>> View the list's information and change your settings at >>> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >>> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> >> >> __________ >> View the list's information and change your settings at >> //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind >> > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind