Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

  • From: "qubit" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:53:33 -0500

The 4th edition was new and not yet free. So I bought it from (I think) the 
author's website.  Actually I don't know anything about that site, except that 
there are a lot of titles and code to download and/or purchase.
--le
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: System Administrator 
  To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?


  Just wondering, the title you are trying to read is thinking in java, 4th 
edition right? Aren't the thinking books free of charge? :S


  Florian

  On Jul 6, 2011, at 6:47 PM, qubit wrote:


    Hi Jim -- That is what I hoped to find in the TIJ book.  It purports to 
discuss rather tutorially how to build a program in java, which, he claims, is 
the only language designed for the purpose of making OO programming easy and 
natural for the programmer. (Other languages he claims are terse and crammed 
with features that are confusing to many newbies.)
    I am not trying to sell his book.  I am annoyed that it seems to crash my 
system before it finishes loading.
    --le

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Homme, James
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:36 AM
      Subject: RE: Best Java Guides for a Newby?


      Hi,
      I think that, as with many things, this is one of those things that can 
be    different, depending on the learning style and knowledge of the person.   

      Speaking just for myself, I get more out of tutorial style books, when 
I'm learning a language. I tend to freeze up at reference type material that is 
full of code and short on words, but that's my taste.

      According to me, you will probably do well with the nutshell books, if 
you already know lots of programming concepts and want to see how certain 
things are done in Java. On the other hand, you may do better if you have 
little programming experience by looking at the Java Tutorial, which takes 
things a concept at a time and explains them with lots of words and examples. 
You can see that at 
http://download.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/reallybigindex.html.

      Thanks.

      Jim

      From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of qubit
      Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:30 PM
      To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

      I would recommend if you have a subscription to bookshare.org, that you 
download a copy of "Java in a Nutshell".  It is a nice summary of features with 
some examples.  I was going to read "Thinking in Java, 4th edition", which I 
forked $25 for online, but got a package that I cann't display on my system.  I 
have been unable to read more than the preface, and most the time, the html 
just freezes things.  So I'm pitching it.  A shame as it sounds like a useful 
guide to using java the way it is meant to be used.

      Online there are also common tasks implemented in java, which you can 
find in http://commons.apache.org/
      Good luck and happy hacking.
      --le

        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Florian Beijers
        To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:44 AM
        Subject: Re: Best Java Guides for a Newby?

        Hello Brandon,

        Do you have any form of IM or perhaps skype? I would like to help you 
but it's easier for me to recommend something if i know a bit more about your 
background. 

        Florian
        On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Brandon Keith (Biggs) wrote:



        Hello,
        I'm new to programming, (I have just made it past "Hello World") and am 
looking for some guides.
        I would like to learn Java, but I'm not quite sure where to start. I 
downloaded the 500 or so documents from the "Java Documentation" at:
        http://www.nonvisualdevelopment.org/node/20
        as well as reading all the tutorials on Eclipse and Java.
        I've installed the SDK 1.6 and Eclipse, is there anything else I need? 
I see there are Jaws scripts for Eclipse, where do I insert those?
        I arrowed through the 500 documents dealing with Java and found:
        Java Tutorial 3rd Edition, a short course on the basics
        but I see it was written in 2001 and only deals with Java 1.3 and 
Windows 2000 and before. Is this something I should read? What books best 
describe the language in an exciting and useful format? I'm wanting to 
eventually program for Android, but I think that is stepping a little ahead of 
myself.
        Where do I start?
        Thanks,

        Brandon Keith Biggs

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