Admin: Re: jaws9 beta

  • From: james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:22:27 -0400

Hi,
This is a programming list. It's not a discussion of how to run the list
list. The rules state that we will have discussion of how to run the list
privately. I put that there so we can keep the traffic on the topic of
programming. That's not to keep you from expressing your opinions of how
the list should be run. It's only to keep them off list. I encourage you to
write me privately with any opinions of how to run the list. Only please
keep those kinds of posts off list.

Thank you.

Jim

James D Homme,
Usability Engineering
Highmark Inc.
james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
412-544-1810

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How about so others here can duplicate problems so more of us can report
bugs to FS so they can be fixed?

Rick


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew2007" <matthew2007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: jaws9 beta


This below is an example of why it would not be a good idea for this list
to
allow any discussion regarding jaws 9. People conveying their problems with
the beta will serve absolutely no purpose as nothing can be done by any of
us and the final release could be a very different monster. Why spend so
much time and effort discussing a work in progress? Its completely
redundant
work and effort.

Thanks,

Matthew
---- Original Message -----
From: <Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: jaws9 beta


> Hi all,
> One problm about jfw 9.0 I am really having trouble with is that when I
> have it first starting up when I boot my computer up, it doesn't tell me
> when messages are unread in Outlook Express. I have to restart my JAWS
9.0
> to make it say the unread notification before it reads the message
> subject, and who it is from. It is wierd. Tell me what you guys think.
>
>
>
> Tristan Bussiere
> Founder, ACE Games
> http://www.acegamesonline.net
>
> Skype: tristanbussiere
> MSN: Tristan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
>
>
> totally agreed, reporting is great, anything else other than proposing
> fixes
> until FS gets to it, and I would say Pass those fixes to FS as well as us
> would be a good thing, but any more than that is bellyaching and I agree
> that it should be cut off, smile
>
> thanks,
> inthane
> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> Links
> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
>
>
> Hi,
> Saying what is wrong and confirming it among list members is fine. Going
> on
> for days about it isn't. I will go that far and I feel that's OK.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme,
> Usability Engineering
> Highmark Inc.
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 412-544-1810
>
> "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is to
> wait until I think I
> can do it just right."
>
>
>
>
>             "Marlon Brandão
>             de Sousa"
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> Agree, specially in terms of related programming things such as how it
> works with vs and such.
> Marlon
>
> 2007/10/4, inthaneelf <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> I hear what your saying Jim, but knowing what is "not quite right" in
the
> j9
>> beta would be helpful to the rest of us, eh?
>>
>> yes most definitely let if s know, but I would like to know as well,
> smile
>>
>> thanks,
>> inthane
>> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> Links
>> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
>> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
>> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: jaws9 beta
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> > I totally agree with this, and instead of complaining on this list,
> please
>> > constructively take the time to report issues to FS.
>> >
>> > Jim
>> >
>> > James D Homme,
>> > Usability Engineering
>> > Highmark Inc.
>> > james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > 412-544-1810
>> >
>> > "It's more important for me to start to do the right thing than it is
> to
>> > wait until I think I
>> > can do it just right."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >             "Sina Bahram"
>> >             <sbahram@xxxxxxxx
>> >             m>
> To
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>> >                                       jaws9 beta
>> >
>> >             10/02/2007 08:28
>> >             PM
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>> >             Please respond to
>> >             programmingblind@
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I would urge all of you to report like crazy.
>> >
>> > I've already filed at least six bugs, if not more, and I am hoping
that
> my
>> > experience with the .net bugs repeats itself and they fix these
things.
>> >
>> > Obviously, don't make them frivolous, and try not to make them useless
> bug
>> > reports such as those that are the fault of a particular software
>> > application, instead of FS doing something wrong in jaws, but I hope
> they
>> > will take them to heart.
>> >
>> > the email address you should report to is:
>> >
>> > support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > I've been using the subject prefix of:
>> >
>> > jaws9 beta bug report
>> >
>> > followed by a colon followed by a space and then a short subject for
> the
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > It helps them a great deal if you include steps on how to reproduce
the
>> > bug.
>> >
>> > Good luck all
>> >
>> >
>> > Take care,
>> > Sina
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