Out of the list below, I've tried argo UML some time ago and couldn't get it to work with any screen readers I had. I was able to use magic draw instead which gives you pretty much everything argo UML does. Magic draw itself is java based and it had a pretty steep learning curve for me, not to mention working in magic draw was extremely tedious and time consuming. I only did the bare minimum of what I was required to do. There was also a project out of Germany called TDub that was abandoned mid way. If you can find a working copy of TDub on Google, that will sometimes help you read the UML diagrams produced by argo UML and magic draw. The way I approached this during my studies was that I convinced the teachers that what was important was that I was learning object oriented design and not the actual tool that I used for UML. Learning UML was important though because that allows you to share your design with others. I used to write up my design in text or in code as classes and either reverse engineer using visual studio to generate class diagrams or take sighted assistance to draw the actual diagrams. good luck. -Manish _____ From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 6:50 PM To: ProgrammingBlind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Accessibility of software for degree Hello everyone In September I will be doing a computing degree. I will be using various software and I would like to know if any of you on the list have any experience with these applications and if they are accessible with jaws. The applications are: Select SSADM Professional Argo UML Microsoft visio 2007 One of my modules involves using Adobe Web Premium CS4. My lecturer says I can do speech processing instead. Just out of curiosity I would like to know if anyone is having success using it so I can let my university know. I'm blind, but I was visually impaired four years ago so I have a good understanding of colours and shapes. The other software I will be using is Microsoft Visual Studio Pro 2008, which I have been informed is accessible. When I enrol on the course I will be subscribed to the Microsoft developer network academic alliance where I will have access to the latest Microsoft products. One of the products will be Microsoft visual studios 2010 professional. I have been on the list for a while so I was able to read the conversation, which said it is not accessible with jaws, but it is with NVDA. Any advice or directions on websites where I could obtain answers on the accessibility of the applications would be extremely appreciated Thanks in advance Michael