RE: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:59:25 -0400
I would not say don't get a mac just be aware that it is not a dream as some
might say. It is nice if you have never used Windows and don't know that to
use a table in windows with Jaws now is a snap or to web browser is as easy
as reading a text doc or easier in Jaws. You find that there are more
steps to open tables and more steps to interact with web. It is nice to
Have a mac sitting in my living room to use when I need to do little things
but I personally don't as snappy as I like it. One thing that is nice about
the Mac is you can install it it then asks you if you want the tutorial and
teaches you to use the screen reader. Finally once your all set after doing
the tutorial all the controls work as the tutorial tells you they will.
That doesn't mean it is the easiest interface to use but once you learn it
you can use most of the software on the Mac without having to learn special
steps.
The Mac theory though is to read less not more. If your one that likes to
hear labels on everything so you know what your filling out it doesn't
always do that by default. Sometimes you have to request to know what label
goes with what. Things do not auto read out like your used to in all
windows screen readers at all times. So let's just say If you're a normal
computer user and just want to do simple web browsing, emailing, media
playing and editing of documents it's a very accessible and usable system.
One I am not using that much yet because I need to work in other OS for my
job. I will say though when I get a new work computer it will be a Mac the
reason is I will boot that Mac into windows 7, I then can boot into mac and
run Fusion and run Linux and windows 7 under it. This way I can multi
operating system builds. Right now I have an old power mac, XP box and
Linux box my next work computer will be a Mac just so I have one thing on my
desk. I will be using it as windows though most often.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 6:05 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft
Hi, Ken,
Thank you for such an informative response. I am taking my first
tentative and rather clumsy steps in learning to program. I use Jaws
and, at times, NVDA for my computer needs. My wife and I have toyed
with the idea of getting a mac book or an i-pad in the future and I
wondered how accessible it would be for me. She is sighted so, of
course, can use anything she pleases. I think I'll stick to windows for
now. I'm having a devil of a time as it is powing and slogging my way
through visual c++ 2010 without adding complication to my plate. Can't
get the silly thing to compile standard c++ programs for some reason.
Anyway, Thanks again and have a nice day.
Alex
Ken Perry wrote:
> It is very accessible if you use Mac word called IWorks and other things
> apple like spread sheet. The developer access sucks but can be dealt
with.
> A lot of stuff works out of the box and I know to high level blind
> developers who have switched to it. I will say though they also have
Fusion
> and windows 7 and linux running on the mac for things the Mac will not do.
> Over all if your just wanting to do basic stuff the Mac is a ok product.
My
> opinion and I have one down in my living room is that everything is a
> magnitude harder to do. If you get in a race with another blind person
using
> windows 7 and jaws you can just do things a hell of a lot faster with
> Windows 7 and Jaws.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Midence
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 5:54 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft
>
> Just how accessible is apple these days anyway? I heard some
> interesting things about voiceover but, I've never run across another
> screen reader user who's actually made the switch. Are all
> applications accessible using it? Wonder how coding, word processing
> and browsing work with it.
>
> Alex
>
> On 6/25/10, katherine Moss<plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot. If only Microsoft Corp would be as proactive as Apple in
>> making their products accessible right from the source and not having us
>> have to install extra software just for accessibility purposes. I mean
>> seriously.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamal Mazrui
>> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 11:11 AM
>> To: guispeak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Accessibility guides and research studies from Microsoft
>>
>> From the archive
>>
>> http://EmpowermentZone.com/ms_acc_doc.zip
>>
>> This archive contains accessibility guides and research studies from
>> microsoft.com. Each .doc or .pdf file also has a .txt version.
>> Printer-friendly versions of .htm files were chosen. The about 30
>> document titles are listed below.
>>
>> Jamal
>>
>> The Market for Accessible Technology - The Wide Range of Abilities and
Its
>> Impact on Computer Use
>>
>> Accessibility in Internet Explorer 7
>>
>> Accessibility in Internet Explorer 8
>>
>> Accessibility in Office 2003
>>
>> Accessibility in Office 2007
>>
>> Accessibility in Windows 7
>>
>> Accessibility in Windows Vista
>>
>> Accessibility Transitioning to Windows 7
>>
>> Accessibility Tutorials for Windows Vista
>>
>> Accessible Technology - A Guide for Educators
>>
>> Accessible Technology in Computing - Examining Awareness, Use, and Future
>> Potential
>>
>> Assistive Technology Decision Tree
>>
>> Computing Guide for Boomers
>>
>> Developing an Accessible Technology Plan
>>
>> Engineering for Accessibility
>>
>> Guide for Individuals with Dexterity and Mobility Impairments
>>
>> Guide for Individuals with Hearing Impairments
>>
>> Guide for Individuals with Language and Communication Impairments
>>
>> Guide for Individuals with Learning Impairments
>>
>> Guide for Individuals with Vision Impairments
>>
>> Identifying the Right Assistive Technology
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Internet Explorer 6 Accessibility
>> Options
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Internet Explorer 8 Accessibility
>> Options
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Outlook 2002 Accessibility Options
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Windows 2000 Accessibility Options
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Windows XP Accessibility Options
>>
>> Step by Step Tutorials for Microsoft Word 2002 Accessibility Options
>>
>> The Business Value of Integrating Accessible Technology into Business
>> Organizations
>>
>> Understanding Accessible Technology
>>
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