Sounds great; thanks!----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platformsI don't know if I know enough Java to help, but please keep me in mind. I am going to send this to a person I work with because I know he will be very interested in this.
Susie Stanzel -----Original Message-----From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:00 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About accessible technology for multiple platforms I primarily write in java but have, in the past, worked with C C#, Ruby, and some PERL. Way back in the day, I even wrote a lot of COBOL code.----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:39 AM Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms I might have missed it, but what language have you written in? Susie -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 8:34 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About accessible technology for multiple platforms Juan, Currently, WE4java is composed of 4 parts. The major part is written in java and handles all the applications monitoring and event handling. The second, which I hope to replace, is a third-party COM bridge called Jacob. The third part is a Windows Script Component (a wsc COM object) which uses JScript to communicate with Window-Eyes. The final part is the Window-Eyes script itself wich handles the speech and Braille output. What I am planning is to get rid of the Jacob COM bridge and replace it with a java native interface, JNI, call to a dll which will replace the wsc object. In this way, the interface between the java part and the dll would always be the same but we could have multiple dll objects to interface with the screen readers; one for Window-Eyes, one for JFW, one for System Access; etc. I'd very much be interested in having you take part in the progress of this project.----- Original Message ----- From: "Juan Hernandez" <blindmagik@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:21 AM Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms
Hi Jay, What is we4java written in? is it all in java? Or is there some c++? I'd like to know so I can contribute because I am a huge, hugefan of the project, and followed itsince you released the very firstversion. I really hope it gets off on its feet and opend up so otherscanwor on it, because I really think your solutionis the best one out there for java access, and making accessible to jfw users would be really cool. Take care. Juan Hernandez Cell: 619-261-2568 E-Mail: juanhernandez98@xxxxxxxxx follow me on twitter: http://www.twitter.com/blindwiz my website: http://www.blindwiz.info -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:58 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About accessible technology for multiple platforms I have had this occur with jaws 10 as well. It usually seems to happen after my machine has gone to screen saver and then I wake it up again. I have never found a way to get it working correctly again other than restarting.----- Original Message ----- From: "Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO" <susan.stanzel@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:17 AM Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms hHi listers, My machine did it again. I hear the keys being pushed and don't really know they are not reaching the message. When I find this out I just have to restart. If any of you have ever had this problem, I sure could use a hint. I am using JAWS 10. Anyway, I wrote to say I am using JAWS and am very interested in this subject since I have not done that old fashioned COBOL for two years and don't have any intention of doing it again. Susie P.S. Also, I want to point out that our own Sina is an NFB scholarship winner. I know you are hoping for him to getthat big one. Susie -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stanzel, Susan - Kansas City, MO Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:50 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platforms Hi Jy, I senou a ssaonyour gmal account. Iam er intete I thbect since I motoing an otadreae COOLlo I sill ueJAWS. By t hwy our owSinai a FB shorhp winer. Ho he I hoo t that bigoe 00. uie -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 8:35 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: About accessible technology for multiple platforms Hi Sina, Laura, and Jared. Thanks for the prompt and encouraging response. I guess some of the first questions we need to answer are the following: * Where will the source code and binaries be stored? * What type of licensing is most appropriate? I have some feedback from Peter Korn on that topic but would like to get the ideas from anyone on the list as wel. * Who will be the owning person or group of the project? * Currently, WE4Java is more or less geared specifically for Window-Eyes usage. If we are going to turn this into a truly multi-platform solution, I think we are going to have to begin hthinking of a more generalized design approach. That is one reason I wanted to get away from the dependency on the Jacob COM API and the wsc bridge between WE4Java and Window-Eyes. I certainly don't want to move away from allowing Window-Eyes to use the java access technology. I just think we need to create a generalized java core with a JNI interface in which one dll would be written for Window-Eyes usage but other implementations could be written as well.----- Original Message ----- From: "Sina Bahram" <sbahram@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 9:17 PM Subject: RE: About accessible technology for multiple platformsHey Jay, I'm extremely saddened to hear about this. Please feel free to email me off line. My father recently battled with colon cancer , so I'm all to familiar with it in that respect. Also, I remember us discussing various java accessibility related issues with Mike Grace, if you remember him. He's moved on to security related research these days, but let's chat off list. All the best to you Take care, Sina -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jay Macarty Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:43 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: About accessible technology for multiple platforms Hi All, My name is Jay Macarty and I am the author of the java accessibility software for Window-Eyes called WE4Java. For the past 7 months, I have been battleing colon cancer and thus, have not been able to devote much time to the completion of this software. Given my current health condition and work load, I can see that it is not going to be posible for me to continue work on this project without inviting some outside developer assistance. I would be more than happy to talk to anyone interested in taking the foundation of WE4Java and building it out to a more flexible and complete product. I hate giving up years of effort and thousands of hours of programming for nothing but as things stand, I don't see how to keep moving this project forwardn without opening up the source in some form or another. My last thought on this matter was to try to enlist the help of a C++ developer to create a dll to interface directly with the WE4Java code base using java's native interface, JNI, instead of going through the existing wsc object and the third-party Jacob COM API. I would invite any thoughts or feedback on this topic to see if we can form some type of collaborative effort to finish this package out. ----- Original Message ----- From: "katherine Moss" <plymouthroamer285@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:00 PM Subject: RE: Vs 2010I am loving VS 2010 right now, and I look forward to using it more as I learn C#, ASP.net, and SQL to go along with it. The only thing I can't find is a darn book on the program to save my life. You know how sucky Microsoft's documentation is. LOL. Katherine -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of The Elf Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:17 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Vs 2010 no coordinated effort as far as I know at this time, it has been mentioned though. elf proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Gomal Tao" <gomal.tao@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 1:19 AM Subject: Vs 2010Hello, I am experimenting with Visual Studio 2010 using the latest jaws 11 update. So far the studio seems to be quite accessible. Writing code in the editor works all right. The problem I am having is that the studio changes focus for jaws all the time. I need to press a lot of keys to come back to the code editor. The menus works perfectly and the jaws cursor can follow navigating menues. I am trying to use the visual editors for the Entity framework. With some jaws scripting it should be possible to give a jaws user access to these editors. There is a lot more to explore and try out for JAWS. 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