A word of warning: you don't register one of the express i d ees in order to buy the full version, you register so the free version you have will continue to function after 30 days.
hth, Martin----- Original Message ----- From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 11:35 PM Subject: Re: A real newbee
you'll need to install it; then, once installed, register it with Microsoft within I think it was thirty days.and if you look carefully at the names letter by letter, you can figure out which is for what, the first one on your list of files you mentioned was vbsetup.exe, which translates into VB setup.exe or the visual basic.net express installer.second note, I don't agree with rick here on the "learning to do it in command line style" is the better way to learn, I like my Ides', and would rather learn a language that way than text editor/command line setup, and I have learned a language both ways, it's a matter of which way works better for you, and which is the easiest way for you to learn now a days.in other words a matter of personal preference and opinion; on which there are a lot of them out here, smile.on my grab bag site (URL under my name) there are some materials available for better integration of the IDE with both jaws and the other screen readers, and there are download links to some far better scripts for jaws.there is also a page of "Jamal's accessible documentation" there that has programming learning info on several languages, there is ricks downloadable project, which he I believe has on a site, if not it will be soon as I can shift it there, and Jamal Mazrui's non visual development.org site for additional materials:www.NonvisualDevelopment.org hope this assists you in your endeavors, the elf Owner: Alacorn Computer Enterprises Specialists in customized computers and peripherals - own the might and majesty of a Alacorn! www.alacorncomputer.com proprietor, The Grab Bag, for blind computer users and programmers http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Traxler" <htraxler2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 8:05 PM Subject: Re: A real newbeeThank you for your response. The year of the files that I downloaded is 2008. They all have the word setup in their names. so I suppose when I decide which language I want, I would install it by executing its setup program.I also have an older version of liberty basic that I bought five or six years ago.<HT>----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 6:11 AM Subject: Re: A real newbeeThose sound like the Express versions of the various Programming Language IDEs. If you are wanting to learn Programming it would be better to use a command line compiler or a Translated Language like a scripting language or Liberty Basic or other translated Language. That said, since you have experience programming in various languages, you need to verify which year the downloaded files are for. For example, you could have them for the Vb.net and C#.net 2010 or for the 2008 versions. I am not sure the 2010 versions are ready for prime time with a screen reader, not WindowEyes for sure and I am not convinced jaws works perfectly with 2010 versions. The way you load one of those modules is just to click on it and wait until it is finished installing. During the process you will need to check the I agree check box to the usage rules and might get asked if you want to install sql Server but that is a complicated process so you might want to say no. You will also get a message that the procesws is done and you can disconnect from the internet. It is not done installing, just downloading. It will sit there telling you nothing for several minutes, 5, 10 or perhaps even 15 minutes. When it is done it will tell you it is done and I think ask you to ReBoot. Anyway, the entire process was posted a couple of weeks ago in a entry level tutorial for using VB.net 2008 to this list andit should be up at: http://EmpowermentZone.com/VB2008WinEyes.zipRick USA __________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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