I don't see that as a step backwards since they force the role attribute. ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John G Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:37 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: A Step Backwards Does anyone know about this? begin extract >Therefore, the HTML Working Group hereby adopts the "Allow tables to be >used for presentational purposes" Proposal for ISSUE-130. Of the Change Proposals before us, this one has drawn the weaker objections. In short, this means that HTML5 rescinds HTML4's guidance on the use of the table markup structure for its presentational layout attributes, such that such use will now be HTML5-valid, provided said table has a role attribute set to "presentation" [1]. end extract __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind