Hi JC, Do you have browse mode turned off when this is going on? Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 4:36 PM To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables JH: Yup, that's what I do. I scroll the page with the up and down arrow keys. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: September 28, 2011 15:32 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables Hi JC, I'm unsure what you mean by scrolling, because when you talk about that, I immediately think about scroll bars, which no screen reader user is able to use. Any screen reader I have ever worked with: JAWS, NVDA, Window-eyes, have all shown the entire table, and have had keys to navigate them. Window-eyes can isolate on a single cell and navigate inside it as though it were a little document unto itself, and keep you from accidentally navigating out of it. JAWS can't do that, but it does show you the individual lines of a cell if you navigate up and down with plain arrows. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 4:03 PM To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables I guess I will need to emphasise to my class that the scrolling is particular to JFW. Does anyone know if the other screen readers have a similar feature? Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita Sent: September 27, 2011 15:35 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables You may try: 1. Insert+F2, then choose Settings Center 2. Press control+Shift+D for default conf file. 3. Press tab and go in the tree view, then select: web/html/pdfs navigation page layout. 4. Press space and turn on "page layout". Maybe it is what you are looking for... I am not sure. Octavian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Corbett, James" <James.Corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 8:37 PM Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables JH: Nope, I'm looking for a way of creating a table and being able to read it as it is displayed visually. It must not be dependent upon a particular device. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: September 27, 2011 12:48 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables Hi JC, Do you mean like read a whole row or column at a time from the table? If so, check out these JAWS key strokes for HTML tables. Read Next Row WINDOWS Key+ALT+DOWN ARROW Read Prior Row WINDOWS Key+ALT+UP ARROW Read Current Row WINDOWS Key+COMMA Read from Beginning of Row to Current Cell INSERT+SHIFT+HOME Read from Current Cell to End of Row INSERT+SHIFT+PAGE UP Read Current Column WINDOWS Key+PERIOD Read from Top of Column to Current Cell INSERT+SHIFT+END Read from Current Cell to Bottom of Column INSERT+SHIFT+PAGE DOWN Read Next Column WINDOWS Key+ALT+RIGHT ARROW Read Prior Column WINDOWS Key+ALT+LEFT ARROW Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 3:43 PM To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [program-java] HTML: Tables HI: Ok, perhaps I was dreaming or the Scotch over took my sensibilities but has anyone ever come across a html table that Jaws reads out in a horizontal fashion instead of the vertical? E.G. When I'm scrolling the contents of a data table, I hear a single cell / column at a time, is there a way of scrolling a table and hearing all the columns in a row much like the way it really is displayed. Any help would be appreciated. Jim James M. Corbett Programmer / Analyst | Canada Revenue Agency | Agence du revenue du Canada 875 Heron Rd. Ottawa, On. K1A0L5 James.Corbett@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Telephone | Téléphone: (613) 941-1338 Facsimile | Télécopieur: (613) 941-2261 Government of Canada | Gouvernement du Canada "Due to the highly confidential nature of my job, I'm not allowed to know what I'm doing." This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. The views expressed in this e-mail message do not necessarily represent the views of Highmark Inc., its subsidiaries, or affiliates.