Hi JC, I read that part about device independence, but I was thinking visually. Too much late night chess. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Corbett, James Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:23 PM To: 'program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables JH: "It must not be dependent upon a particular device.", what part of that didn't you read. <smile> I'm setting up this course syllabus for the project I hinted at a month or so ago. There is a JSP component and I'm dynamically building a table but was hoping that via html I could force the screen reader to read the rows as I'm scrolling. I thought that I had come across something similar but I might have been dreaming. Jim -----Original Message----- From: program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:program-java-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Homme, James Sent: September 27, 2011 15:12 To: program-java@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [program-java] Re: HTML: Tables Hi JC, JAWS can kind of half way do this. When you get your web browser open, use Insert + V and then look for an item called Document Presentation. If it is set to Simple Layout, switch it to the other option. Then, when you look at a table, it will be sort of laid out a little like it might appear visually. If you are fortunate enough to have a Braille display, you will see vertical bars between the columns. Another thing you can attempt is to keep a document on your computer that just has the top and bottom part of an HTML file with pretty much an empty body, then, view the source of the file you are working on and hack out the table. Then, dump that into your little HTML file, save the result to your computer, view it in your web browser, use Insert + Z to turn browse mode off, Use Control + A to select all, Control + C to copy to clipboard, open Word, paste, and check out the result. If you use your JAWS cursor, you will kind of get a feel for the visual aspect. You can also see if you can turn off browse mode with Insert + Z in your web browser and use your JAWS cursor to check out the table. Jim This e-mail and any attachments to it are confidential and are intended solely for use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not keep, use, disclose, copy or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. The views expressed in this e-mail message do not necessarily represent the views of Highmark Inc., its subsidiaries, or affiliates.