[predestinarianbaptist] Rom 13, civil government and the Christian

  • From: Tom Adams <asweetsavor@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: predestinarianbaptist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:16:04 -0800

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*From:* Lyal Lund <buzzsaw0311@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:11 PM
*To:* HOYT D. F. SPARKS <hoytsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* Re: Rom 13, civil government and the Christian
Actually I dont even know how to post on the forum: But feel free to do
so if you wish. I will add one more comment to the end of it tho, if you
do post it.

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*From:* HOYT D. F. SPARKS <hoytsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2021 10:14 AM
*To:* Lyal Lund <buzzsaw0311@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* Re: Rom 13, civil government and the Christian
Why don't you post to the forum: predestinarianbaptist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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*From:* Lyal Lund <buzzsaw0311@xxxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2021 02:13
*Subject:* Rom 13, civil government and the Christian
Ok folks, my apology, the other day I sent out an email to everyone that
was supposed to have this link with it, but apparently it did not make
it on the email. Now retrying. Please note that in addition to this vid,
I believe the God ordained authority in this nation is NOT the
government, but rather the Constitution, to which both government and
the people are to be submitted too. It is the right and duty of each
side, that when the other side is found to be out of compliance, it is
to be forced, if need be, back into compliance (the need for the Second
Amendment).

The Christian and Patriot, who then enters the struggle against a
tyrannical, unconstitutional government, is NOT in violation of Rom 13
at all, but rather in obedience to it.

Further, as the vid points out, submission in scripture, wherever
taught, is NOT a moral absolute, for unlimited submission belongs to God
alone and never to sinful man. rom 13, as all such submission passages
show, is a general principal only. ​For instance, a congregation is to
submit to the leadership of the church. However, if that leadership is
found to be teaching doctrine contrary to God's Word, it is to remove
that leadership and appoint other leadership more faithful to
Scripture.  In terms of the government and the Christian, to be sure, we
are to be model citizens, we are to pay our taxes, obey the laws.
However when government becomes oppressive and tyrannical, our very
Constitution states We The People, have the right to alter or abolish
such government and appoint a new government that respects our rights.
The Founders understood very well something called 'Natural Law', that
our rights come to us from God and are inherent in creation. Government
does NOT grant such rights, nor can it take them away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzrdKYFR-1E
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