[phpa] Re: Apache Error log messages
- From: "Gilles GROS" <gillesg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <phpa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 21:43:26 -0800
Thank you for your sharing your view.
So if I get it correctly, if using PHP 4.1.2 I do not see any segfault in
Apache logs, I should not see any with PHPA.
Right?
And by the way, be sure that I will first check PHP and its extension before
going toward PHPA.
Keep doing the good job you are providing to the community.
Best regards.
Gilles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: phpa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:phpa-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Nick Lindridge
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:11 PM
> To: phpa@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [phpa] Re: Apache Error log messages
>
>
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > You mentioned that PHP 4.1.2 is unstable used with PHPA.
> > What version of PHP would you recommend then?
>
> No, PHP 4.1.2 is unstable period - i.e. it's unstable without PHPA as well
> :-) Just as 4.0.6 is/was. Ho hum.
>
> But, PHP 4.1.2 must be *mostly* ok because many people are surely using it
> without problems - although there are also people who *will* be having
> problems, i.e. segfaults, and just never realise it because they
> don't check
> their logs thoroughly, if at all. I've sometimes seen that when looking at
> logs that people have sent when investigating possible problems with phpa
> (but they've also been really helpful in pointing out confirmed
> issues with
> phpa in the past too, so I never mind going through logs!).
>
> 4.0.6 was probably OK for many people too, but it broke for me because I
> used certain array functions, and even then, would only break on the 'n'th
> apache request. e.g. it might take 35 requests after restarting
> apache, but
> would always be 35 requests, unless I modified my php code a bit
> and then it
> might always take 20 requests, or 100 requests. The bugs just took their
> time to crash apache.
>
> I'd say use whatever version of PHP that you have to and see what happens.
> If you get segfaults then it would be worth trying without phpa
> for a day or
> so to see whether you also see any segfaults. If you do then beat
> up the php
> folks, although you have to wonder about any other plugings that you have
> too. If you don't then it doesn't mean that there's not a bug in PHP, but
> you can then come and point the finger at phpa as well :-)
>
> Personally I liked 4.0.7RC3 because it appeared to fix the bugs
> that crashed
> 4.0.6, and I never had segfaults with it. I'm still using that on the phpa
> site.
>
> If you find a 'golden release' of anything, there's a lot to be said for
> sticking with it until you really need to change. I stuck with the 3.22.32
> (I think that was it anyway) release of mysql because I never had problems
> with it. Sure it got join ordering wrong so queries were often slower than
> they should be unless I forced the ordering, but then so does the
> much newer
> 3.23.42, even when you've run an analyze on the table and done everything
> that you're supposed to do. The most recent versions may still be lame in
> that respect, and the newest versions of mysql always seem to
> have problems
> with this or that not working reliably. Of course there's always new stuff
> that's cool too, but it seems that you're really taking a leap of faith in
> using it.
>
> nick
>
>
>
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