Well when i had a free minute here and there I took it upon myself to try a couple of things, plus have a cpl questions. 1) i switched the usb cable from the external with the one from the enclosure on the one we used to put in drives from ole pc. 2) tried to run scan and after a few hrs of no progress and still unable to close out with the X, just rebooted. 3) while Rick was still home I opened up the case of the external and i couldn't tell you if something was loose or not as it was extremely compact and tight in there. I don't know how the cable was even able to fit........was definitely a tight fit. we just closed it back up, but Rick said if we need to he can try to take it out of it's house and put it in the other house, lol. 4) i'm sure i got everthing off the old 20gig from my old pc, so I just left it in the enclosure and hooked that baby up to my computer and decided I'd just make it into an external..............ok.......I formatted, got the error about losing everything, clicked "yeah i know that" and let it go on and in maybe 2 minutes flat it was done...........hmmm.........showed up just fine in windows explorer..............so i decided I'd put my collection of fonts on it and they still show up ok, but I guess maybe there was a step i may have missed because it had been a C drive because when I reboot with it still on I get the errors "attempting boot from USB Device, NTLDR is missing, press ctrl & alt & delete to restart" Well ctrl/alt/delete does nothing, so I have to wait till it's ok to turn off the 20gig, then i have to hit the reset button on pc to turn off then back on. Hopefully I didn't make a mess of trying to format my old C drive...yikes..............I just can't leave well enough alone. So now I have 2 externals that aren't playing fair with my pc. And I guess I have some kind of autoplay on this pc, because when I turn on my 20gig, you can see all the fonts loading up on the desktop. I wonder if there is a way for that not to do that. Boy if I had the 120 gig full of stuff and it had to load up everytime it's turned on it would be a pain. When I was hooking up the drives to transfer info to new pc I saw everything load up............it was extremely quick, but kinda freaked me out, lol. I don't know if there is something I really NEED this autoplay for. It doesn't have anything to do with music CDs automatically playing when put in right? Another thing I had noticed on the 120 gig external and forgot to mention before was when I click on the icon to see if it's ok to turn it off, a window comes up with the following info: Safely Remove Hardware Window: USB Mass Storage Device WDCWD12 00JB-OOFUAOUSB Device Generic Volume - G Then you click "stop" and: The "stop a hardware device" window shows as: This is what I see: USB Mass Storage Device WDCWD12 00JB-OOFUAO USB Device Generic Volume (G:) It's like there's 3 things to choose from to click on and I don't know which to click on, but have been clicking on the WDC(bla bla bla)one. Hope that's right. Sandy --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join the PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------