Thanks MJH and Troth, I'll try that in the morning and let you know if that worked for me. sylvia. Good call, MJH. Also, besides finding it direct on the Macromedia site, both Shockwave and Flash are listed at Download.com, as MJH pointed out. Here's a direct link for both: http://tinyurl.com/pxmj ::: Troth ::: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ICQ: 1717439 MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo IM: SirTroth AIM/AOL: SirTrothX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk