Both those sites use FLASH. You may want to make sure they're up-to-date on your system. Go here and download and install them: http://www.macromedia.com/ Click both the DOWNLOAD FLASH PLAYER and also the DOWNLOAD SHOCKWAVE PLAYER. See if that helps. ::: Troth ::: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ICQ: 1717439 MSN: SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxx Yahoo IM: SirTroth AIM/AOL: SirTrothX ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :::Original Message :::Sent Sun, 5 Oct 2003 09:06:00 +0100 by sylviavdwall | Here are two of them it happens to is www.aarhof.nl; www.conroz.com/stationaryplanet/stats/index.html | It does not happen to all sites I visit, maybe 4 out of 10. To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk