There is a good program called "Restore It" from www.Worldstart.com I have the CD...if anyone would like to have the download ...I could download it to my PC, zip and send it. I bought it when I had Win 98. DJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "~OoO~" <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:54 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. RE: NTBACKUP > Most of the time, I would think, NO. But... some System Restore disks will > actually have a full version of the OS on it. So, the best way to do this > is > to do a search on your System Restore CD and search for VALUEADD. If the > backup is in there, it should be under that folder. > > ---Troth > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of cristy > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:43 AM > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. RE: NTBACKUP > > So, if you only have a system restore disk that came with your computer, > you > > cannot get the backup feature with win xp right? > > thanks, > > cristy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "~OoO~" <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:33 AM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. RE: NTBACKUP > > >> To everyone asking about the Windows backup program that can't be found: >> http://sirtroth.com/windows_tips/w-0013.htm >> >> ---Troth >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jerry >> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:02 AM >> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >> >> Start/All Programs/Accessories/System Tools/BackUp >> >> Never installed it manually. I checked all 101 updates that have been >> installed on my PC at the Windows Update site and saw no updates that >> mentioned BackUp program. This computer came with XP Home and SP1 and SP2 >> were auto downloaded and installed. I honestly don't remember if BackUp >> was >> on here initially as I never looked for it. I use restore points and burn >> certain folders manually to CD. >> >> Jerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bashful Bob >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:17 PM >> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >> >> >> Hi >> Would you mind specifying the path on your puter to the backup? >> >> Was it installed when you got the system or did you have to install it? >> >> Life is what happens in between plans. >> >> Virus free email by Norton's >> This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and/or entity >> to >> which it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, >> confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are >> not the addressee, or authorized to receive this on behalf of the >> addressee, >> you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose, or >> distribute >> to anyone this message or any part thereof. If you have received this in >> error, please immediately advise the sender by e-mail and delete this >> information. Thank you >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Jerry" <jebarr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:27 PM >> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >> >> >>> Hmmmm.. I have Win XP Home Edition. I have upgraded to SP2 but never did >> any >>> update to put BackUp on it. Maybe it is part of SP2. Because I >>> definitely >>> have BackUP as an option although I have never used this - only the >> Restore >>> feature. >>> >>> Jerry >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Joyce >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:46 PM >>> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>> >>> And I have XP Pro. Guess we have all learned something today. >>> Joyce >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bob Crews" <rec46@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:02 PM >>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>> >>> > Once again, I have winXP Home and there is not any Back Up there. >>> > >>> > Bob >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Joyce" <jmcclure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:58 PM >>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> > >>> > >>> >> Or go to My Computer, right click on C Drive, click on Properties, >> Tools >>> >> and >>> >> there is Back Up. Yep, it's hiding. >>> >> Joyce >>> >> P.S. I have never used it though! >>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >> From: "Bob Crews" <rec46@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:52 PM >>> >> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> Well, I have winXP and tere is nothing on it that says back up. I >> even >>> >>> did >>> >>> a find of the word and showed nothing but there is and only is a >>> >>> restore. >>> >>> That's where I do everything you mentioned. If there is a back up >>> >>> on >>> >>> win >>> >>> XP >>> >>> I wish someone would tell me where it's hiding. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: "Bashful Bob" <Bashfulbob@xxxxxxx> >>> >>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 2:37 PM >>> >>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Actually I think there is a slight difference between system >>> >>>> restore >>> >>>> and >>> >>>> back up. Here is my understanding of the two. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> A system restore can be don by the operator or can be done, a >> different >>> >>>> times, by the operating system. System restore is done for so many >>> >>>> times, >>> >>>> say four, and then the oldest one is replaced by the newer one. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On a back up, that resides there until another back up is done. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> In either case, if you have bugs in your system, they can be >>> >>>> incorporated >>> >>>> into the system restore and/or backup. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Life is what happens in between plans. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Virus free email by Norton's >>> >>>> This message is intended for the sole use of the individual and/or >>> >>>> entity >>> >>>> to >>> >>>> which it is addressed, and may contain information that is >> privileged, >>> >>>> confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If >>> >>>> you >>> >>>> are >>> >>>> not the addressee, or authorized to receive this on behalf of the >>> >>>> addressee, >>> >>>> you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose, or >>> >>>> distribute >>> >>>> to anyone this message or any part thereof. If you have received >>> >>>> this >>> >>>> in >>> >>>> error, please immediately advise the sender by e-mail and delete >>> >>>> this >>> >>>> information. Thank you >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: "Bob Crews" <rec46@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:13 PM >>> >>>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> They are the same. Just some systems use different names. Backup >> or >>> >>>>> Restore. Actually, a Restore is when you go back and Backup your >>> >>>>> PC >>> >>>>> and >>> >>>>> later you Restore it but in my WinXP it only has Restore. Kind of >>> >>>>> silly >>> >>>> but >>> >>>>> that's the way it is. I just did a "find" on my system and I have >>> >>>>> a >>> >>>>> lot >>> >>>> of >>> >>>>> "backup" there but all of them is within my other programs. Not >>> >>>>> my >>> >>>>> system >>> >>>>> itself. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Bob >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>>> From: "Joyce" <jmcclure@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:59 AM >>> >>>>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> > Bob, do you back up or do you use system restore? or both? >>> >>>>> > Joyce >>> >>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>>> > From: "Bob Crews" <rec46@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:12 AM >>> >>>>> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: reformating hard drive. >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> > >>> >>>>> >> SandyLea, >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Everytime I install/download something new on my PC that I >>> >>>>> >> don't >>> >>>>> >> know >>> >>>>> >> much >>> >>>>> >> about, I always back up my PC prior to the install/download. >> This >>> >>>>> >> way >>> >>>> I >>> >>>>> >> can >>> >>>>> >> always go back and refresh my system back to it was right >>> >>>>> >> before >> I >>> >>>>> >> install/download. Also by doing this way, I will not have to >> worry >>> >>>> about >>> >>>>> >> loosing all kinds of things because the only backup I have was >> done >>> >>>>> >> several >>> >>>>> >> days or weeks ago. >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> Bob >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>>>> >> From: <sandy1943@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> >> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:08 AM >>> >>>>> >> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- reformating hard drive. >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >>>I want to reformat my hard drive to get rid of all my >>> >>>>> >>>problems... >>> >>>>> >>>so >>> >>>> now >>> >>>>> >>> what's a good back up program or should I just use Windows XP? >>> >>>>> >>> Major >>> >>>>> >>> problems with Outlook and outlook express as well! And if I >>> >>>>> >>> do >> a >>> >>>>> >>> back >>> >>>>> >>> up, >>> >>>>> >>> and then reinstall.......... am I going to create the same >>> >>>>> >>> problem? >>> >>>>> >>> What >>> >>>>> >>> exactly do I back up, just the word files etc or the program >>> >>>> themselves >>> >>>>> >>> or............ any and all advise is welcome and appreciated! >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> SandyLea >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> To unsub or change your email settings: >>> >>>>> >>> //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> To access our Archives: >>> >>>>> >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ >>> >>>>> >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >>> For more info: >>> >>>>> >>> //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk >>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> To unsub or change your email settings: >>> >>>>> >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> To access our Archives: >>> >>>>> 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