-=PCTechTalk=- Re: XP Musical boot failure
- From: "recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx" <recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 00:14:32 -0400
This prologue was written after the response below was written.
I have decided to simply reinstall both XP and Vista. Without all the
location changes and other tweaking. With two new problems popping up
for every one I overcome, I have decided that any performance boost to
be gained falls far short of being worth the trouble to get it.
That said, I do want to learn something from this fiasco, so a reply to
your response is below. Your comments and suggestions, and educated
guesses, especially regarding items marked ***** would be appreciated.
IF. Even without the caps that is a big and very important word. The
sequence of events (repeated below) does nothing to help me determine IF
permissions were hijacked and if they were why an imaged version of XP
that originally had them did not get them back when restored. What else
might have been impacted by the move and move back that would not have
been fixed by the restores that were done?
- - - - - - - - - - - - - end of Prologue
The XP install was first. Then Vista. Then XP was imaged followed by
Vista and the Data Drive.
Data drive was moved and moved back by Vista. XP became screwed up.
Restored Data drive. Restored XP. Rewrote the Vista MBR using EasyBCD.
***** If Vista hijacked permissions, I suspect I would need to restore
Vista to release the hostages. But, since the restored XP had those
permissions, why didn't restoring it fix it? Could something have made
changes to ntldr that would cause the problem?
What might have had permissions hijacked that would cause the hang at
the point where it hangs?
If XP doesn't see the my documents folder, it simply creates a new one
where it expects to find it.
AVG Suite, MS Office 2007, MS Plus Digital Media Edition and Vispics
were the only programs installed in XP and they were installed with the
Program Files folder on the data drive.
***** It would seem to me the "missing" program files folder would
simply create error messages during boot and start up rather than hang
the boot itself since (I assume) startup programs don't start until
Windows is loaded.
***** At any rate I will simply reinstall both systems and start over.
And everything is going to go where the OS wants it to be. And then I
may try relocating the "My Documents" and "Documents folders to the Data
Drive (or maybe an external) and point XP and Vista (respectively) to
them. I'm thinking that using the internal data drive will be best and
just "sync" it to an external when I need to go portable.
Gman wrote:
> If one OS is used to Move a shared resource, it could hijack the overall
> permissions for that resource. How much this could apply to your situation
> is very much up in the air.
>
> The image will also contain the MBR for a given volume. Was the Vista image
> made before XP existed? If so, the restored MBR won't know a thing about
> XP.
>
> Peace,
> Gman
>
> http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php
>
> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <recklessmaverick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:57 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: XP Musical boot failure
>
>
>
>> Hmmmmm
>>
>> I restored the Data drive. No Help
>>
>> I restored the XP drive to same date as data drive restored to. No help
>>
>> I booted to Vista, opened EasyBCD and re-wrote the Vista MBR. No Help.
>>
>> Tried to boot to XP SAFE mode. Hangs there also.
>>
>> I 'm gonna go Google for some new curse words to try. Anybody got any
>> ideas before I find some?
>>
>> Don
>>
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