-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Rant about Sluggishness during file transfer.
- From: ~OoO~ <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:06:06 -0400
I've never worked with RAID controllers, that is why I asked. So, I can't
give any recommendations on setting this up. If you're using the RAID
controllers cause its required for the extra space, then that's fine, but
someone else will need to jump in here to help out. But, if you only have
one drive, and you set it up on the regular IDE controller, than we need to
do a few checks there.
The "hiccups" you describe that slows your system could be coming from a
lot of things. For starters, I'd guess that the operating system either was
not reinstalled from scratch (as should have been since you went to an
outside source to fix the problem) or it was installed as a packaged OS,
meaning the guy at the shop decided to install the OS along with all the
other crap that we usually don't want installed on our system. When I buy a
new system with an OS on it, I almost always (99% of the time) format the
drive and reinstall from scratch myself, so that way I know what's on there.
The problem you said you were having installing the OS (where you said
after a boot up it would say its missing files) can usually be solved by
using the Windows setup floppies (6-floppy set). Most people start the
computer with the Windows CD, and it boots and starts the install process.
But, as I've had trouble in the future (very similar to what you described
with the missing files), using the setup floppies solves the problems. You
just start the computer with the 1st floppy in the drive and the Windows
setup CD in the drive, and you make sure it boots from the floppy. It'll go
through all 6 floppies and then will restart the system and start the
install process. That's something you can try as well. And, I would
definitely recommend installing the OS yourself. With Windows XP, its so
very easy, unlike the previous versions of Windows where you then have
problems with drivers. XP usually has working drivers for everything on
your system already.
Another thing you can do is run SpyBot and Ad-Aware on your system to see
if the guy at the store has anything there that could be running in the
background and slowing everything down. SpyBot is freeware and Ad-Aware has
both a free and pay version, with the free version being just as good. Both
can be found by typing into the Google search engine, but if you can't find
the main site tell me and I'll quickly do the search for you.
Don't feel too down with all this. We should be able to fix all this, and
on the brighter side you DID get a better CPU. Overall, after we fix this,
your system will run very nicely.
---Troth
At 9/20/2003 09:47 AM, you wrote:
>Hi yeah.
>
>I originally bought it because I had ran out of IDE channels in my system.
>
>I had only one drive on it but for some reason they've put two of my storage
>drives on it now...
>Cheers
>Barry
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "~OoO~" <SirTroth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 2:36 PM
>Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Rant about Sluggishness during file transfer.
>
>
> > Really quick question before we dwell further into this whole
>problem...=20
> > Are you using the RAID controller at all?
> >
> > ---Troth
> >
> >
> > At 9/20/2003 09:15 AM, you wrote:
> > >Hi all.
> > >
> > >It was recommended to me that I should join this list and air what's
> > >happened here.
> > >
> > >
> > >I had to get a new mobo and cpu fitted
> > >into my machine. Also some new RAM.
> > >
> > >It was one of those deals I brought my machine into a electronics store=
> > here
> > >in Northern Ireland. A big one, they have franchises all over the UK.
> > >Maplins, is there name.
> > >
> > >I brought it in because during the XP install on booting from cd it would
> > >copy the files then say it was going to reboot and when it would boot up
> > >again it woudl say a file was missing....
> > >
> > >Anyway the tech in Maplisn thought it was the graphics card, then the
>cpu,
> > >then it turned out to be my 256stick and 128 sticks of SD RAM were bad as
> > >well? I've had this machine for about 3 years and never had any problems
> > >with it. In terms of RAM at any rate. In fact I only fitted the 256
>about
> > >two years back when I first installed win xp home on here.
> > >
> > >So I'd to buy a new 512 stick of DDR RAM.....
> > >
> > >I think I was ripped there, but unfortunately I can't prove it. I've no
> > >tech friends to test this mobo and cpu and RAM out....
> > >
> > >Anyways the cpu he fitted was a, AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+.
> > >
> > >I've noticed that when I'm copying files from either cd rom onto the hard
> > >drive the computer appears sluggish during this copy. If I'm playing a
> > >music file in Winamp whilst this is copying Winamp skips a bit. If I'm
> > >playing a video file in Winamp whilst copying from one hard drive to=
> > another
> > >it stops and starts like nobodys business. However, if I'm copying from
>or
> > >to the other drives in the machine everythings fine. And I can quite=
> > happly
> > >paly music and video files. Either on a seperate drive to where the data
> > >copying is going on or to drives involved in the copy process.
> > >
> > >Now I never, ever got this with my 384RAM and 750mhz AMD Athlon cpu.
> > >
> > >Has anyone any idea what this is?
> > >
> > >I've brought it back a number of times.
> > >
> > >They've changed data cables, re-arranged the hard drives because it was
> > >stalling during boot up. Apparently because the RAID card was taking=
> > contro
> > >l? Despite the c drive being set to primary master and it being plugged
> > >into the mobo.
> > >
> > >When I fired up partition magic the c drive was being listed as drive 2.
> > >Which was very odd. When I brought it back from the shop after they
>fixed
> > >the RAID card from stalling the system the c drive was listed as drive 3!
> > >
> > >I've rang them up this morning explaining to them that I'm not happy with
> > >the service.
> > >
> > >I've paid out =A3204 so far on parts and labour in there and the machine=
> > isn't
> > >running satasfactory.
> > >
> > >I was told that the tech had tryed everything he could and he could
>either,
> > >
> > >1. Replace my old mobo and cpua nd RAM.
> > >
> > >To which I replyed, "Waht's the point in doing that if they don't work"?
> > >
> > >2. Upgrade this new mobo they've just put in?
> > >"To whcih I replyed well the other mobo that couldn't take this AMD
>Athlawn
> > >2000 xp must have been a smasher because I never got this sluggishness
>on=
> > it
> > >when transfering files".
> > >
> > >I've still no idea what specifically was wrong with the machine in the=
> > first
> > >place and now they are talking about fitted a new c drive????????
> > >
> > >I'm dying with a chest infection/cold here and this computer problem has
> > >went on for almost a friggin month now guys!
> > >
> > >If I just ask for a full refund it will involve me taking it somewhere
>else
> > >to get it repaired. I've no idea where to go to that is reliable here in
> > >Belfast. And a place that isn't going to rip the arse out of it in
>terms=
> > of
> > >labour cost.
> > >
> > >Also I'm in college so I can't afford to have my computer gone for any
>more
> > >than a few days, in the most.
> > >
> > >I'm really at a loss.
> > >
> > >A guy on the winxphelp list told me he was.
> > >
> > >1. Burning a cd using Nero.
> > >2. Playing a video file.
> > >3. Uploading files to an ftp.
> > >4. Copying files from one network drive to another witht he same cpu as
>me
> > >and never got any skipping?
> > >
> > >Which leads me to believe that it's either.
> > >
> > >1. The c drive.
> > >2. The new mobo.
> > >
> > >3. The RAID card and the mobo not liking each other?
> > >
> > >Can anyone give me any suggestions of what to do here?
> > >
> > >Sorry for the grammer and typos I'm very sick and everytime I think about
> > >this all it just gets me going.
> > >
> > >Don't get me wrong I'm not raving, swinging off the light on the ceiling=
> > nor
> > >am impolite when talking to the techs.
> > >
> > >We've just actually rang the store again because my father was getting
> > >annoyed this because the fella that was on the phone this morning wasn't=
> > the
> > >most helpful of all people. His exact words were, "I've tryed all I
>can".
> > >And that's fair enough but the fact is I brought the machien down with a
> > >problem had to replace all these parts, now it might be a problem with a
>c
> > >drive I bought from them in the first place under a year ago lol.
> > >
> > >It's a real old pantomime.
> > >
> > >My father spoke to the manager there now and then put me on to explain
>what
> > >was replaced and what work was done.
> > >
> > >The guy and I quote said half through my explanation of at first they
> > >thought it was this, then that, now this.
> > >
> > >"Oh, I think i see where this is going".
> > >
> > >So I'm bringing the machine back on Wednesday afternoon. And the
>manager=
> > is
> > >going to be there.
> > >
> > ><sigh>
> > >
> > >I'm off for a lay down as I'm caufing my lungs up here. Lovely eh?
> > >
> > >lol
> > >
> > >Barry
> > >
> > >
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