-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Not Receiving mail --AOL
- From: "Carlene" <carlene1st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 20:58:19 -0500
Yes, so true! I had AOL for one month and it drove me crazy.
Earthlink/Mindspring is great here. (I have DSL but do use the dial up when
we travel with no problems)
Carlene
----- Original Message -----
From: <TechRose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Not Receiving mail --AOL
> I changed the thread subject as this is a bit off the mainstream topic I
am
> responding to.
>
> Ok folks, if you do not like rants, do not read this. These words are my
> own personal opinion.
> In my humble opinion AOL is worse than Bill Gates has ever been accused of
> being.
>
> They not only have products that do not work properly and want to make
money
> from its customers by 'renting' them to their advertisers, but, they do
> their best to make you think they are helping you.
>
> AOL is looked upon as a great ISP for newbies. They take newbies by the
> hand and say," We know you are new in this big world of the internet. Do
> not be afraid, we will help and protect you from the evil outside our
ISP."
> (They do not even say they will protect you from the evil INSIDE AOL)
>
> They make things very easy for the newbie. And soon the newbie feels very
> comfortable. They do not have so many decisions to make and do not have
to
> learn a lot of new things. They are being spoon fed by AOL. Once spoon
> fed, it is difficult to go out on your own and be a 'pioneer' and explore
> the rest of the internet world.
>
> AOL says who can send them spam and who cannot. They can allow all the
> popups and advertising of those that pay them for their captive audience.
> You see.. AOL can deliver market share with limited competition for its
big
> paying customers, the advertisers/spammers.
>
> Just think if the only grocery store you knew about only sold XYZ Beer.
You
> would never know there was ABC beer or any other brand. Or, even if you
> knew there were other brands, you would probably only buy XYZ beer because
> it was familiar to you. The recommendation came from a trusted 'friend'
who
> promised to protect you. XYZ will pay for that privilege. They KNOW you
> will only see their advertisement. They have a captive audience. There
is
> no real competition.
>
> When AOL started blocking 'content' from it's users in the name of
security,
> I was deeply concerned. It did not give you a choice. You had no voice.
> You just did not get the content. It would be like getting the morning
> paper and your "friend' came and cut out the articles they felt might not
> be good for you. They want to 'protect' you. They would give you the
> content "they" determined was ok for you to see. You pay for the paper,
> you get the information THEY want you or will ALLOW you to have.
>
> What is more insidious is they way they give their customers a 'feeling'
of
> security..that security blanket that makes their customers think they are
> treasured and they cannot leave and go out into the cruel cyberworld as
they
> will be hurt. They have not learned, from AOL, how to surf the net, get
the
> mail and content they want or any of the technical things all
> computer/internet users need to know.
>
> I have seen some of the worst spam and vulgar XXXX rated emails in AOL. I
> am so sick and tired of the internet having to create separate links for
> everything for AOL users. (It is not because of the users, but because
AOL
> refuses to adopt the standards the rest of the world has adopted.)
>
> For Instance, all the major ISP's tried to get AOL to standardize chat a
> number of years ago. MSN, Prodigy and other ISP's were writing and asking
> AOL to join in a standard that would allow a single chat client to work
for
> all users and to support the standard. All the ISP's EXCEPT AOL were in
> agreement. When AOL got a lot of heat, allot from their own customers,
they
> agreed to come to the meeting with the other ISP's and to bring input to
the
> chat client. They agreed to participate.
>
> They did not agree to work with anyone. Just to show up and make their
> demands. Their demands were to use their chat client and force everyone
> else to and they controlled the product. In other words, they would make
> everyone reliant on AOL for chat. another niche market for them.
>
> There is a reason they bought Netscape and also a reason for the
Time-Warner
> dumping of AOL. AOL is arrogant and will go down in flames as a victim in
> its own corporate mind. The real victims are the customers who are paying
a
> high price for services they either do not need, want or use. So many
> clients use to little of their services.
>
> It is easy to sign up mom and dad to AOL as they just send a few pieces of
> email. That is a lot of money for email folks.
>
> As always, I qualify my comments with, this is my personal opinion.. and I
> have no money to be made by saying any ISP is good or bad. There may be a
> niche for AOL, but I think AOL needs to join the rest of the world and
allow
> its customers to be first class citizens!
>
> I know..I know.. tell me what you really think Rose...haha!
> I do not want anyone to think that I disrespect AOL customers or think
they
> are stupid. I just think they are being taken advantage of.
>
> Rose
> Las Vegas
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cris" <cris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:52 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email
>
>
> why would Bill gates do this when he has his IE and OE, and AOL is its own
> thing
> and doesn't support OE ? or am I not understanding this - are you saying
AOL
> is
> becoming like Bill Gates?
> Just trying to figure out what you mean - and why AOL would block everyone
> else
> who didn't use AOL - I think that would act in the reverse, and AOL
> customers
> would leave AOL - NO? people who don't use AOL wouldn't start to use it
just
> to
> communicate with their AOL friends - sounds illogical to me.....
>
> Cris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: milady
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 10:10 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email
>
>
> or else LEAVE AOL??? Even if that is TRUE? no one says anyone HAS to stary
> there..
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rocky Fithian" <Rockyfit@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:44 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: not receiving all my email
>
>
> Do you have an idea that AOL will eventually block all ISPs so that
> if you want to use e-mail you will have to use AOL. Looks like
> another Bill Gates thing to me.
> Rocky
>
> On 29 Jan 2004 at 21:19, Poppy0206@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > The site this is happening for is Rootsweb.
> > For some reason, AOL has decided that rootsweb mail is spam and they
> > will not put it through to their customers. Rootsweb has been in
> > touch with AOL about this issue but they're not sure if AOL will
> > listen or do anything about removing this block from your list mail.
> >
> > There is a number of bounces allowed before the robot at rootsweb
> > removes an address. I've set the limit on the NFLD-ROOTS to 12
> > returned messages but at the rate we're going it won't be long before
> > your address is removed by the robot due to the bounces. :-( I can't
> > resubscribe you once the robot removes your address because another
> > returned message will trigger the robot to remove your address once
> > again.
> >
> > It might be a good idea for you to contact tech support and explain
> > that you had to subscribe to receive mail from the NFLD-ROOTS mailing
> > list and that it's not spam and that you'd like to receive it once
> > again.
> >
> >
> >
> > cristy
>
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