Jack, If you are referring to me, step back. I am not a newbie. I cut my teeth on an IBM 8086. When I got done with that I started toying with Commodores, Atari's, one system called the Lynx (not Atari, if anyone ever heard of that one let me know), etc. I cut my teeth on PC-DOS, MS-DOS, Unix, and programming languages such as COBOL, FORTRAN, and PASCAL (none of which you hear very much anymore unless your really in the industry. I also custom build PCs and run a home based business fixing these infernal contraptions, both hardware and software. I'm also only 31. I also beta test for MS. (And no I'm not a big Windows, IE supporter). I prefer Linux (Lindows currently), and Open-Source and freeware alternatives for my personal use. Business wise I do use MS as it is a compatibility issue with other people. And I never knocked Netscape. What I will say about Netscape is this. When it first came out, it was a viable alternative, unfortunately Netscape didn't push the envelope enough times. Every time they did, IE caught up. And now Netscape is being put out by AOL. Netscape has changed into bloatware, AOL-esque style no less. The day Netscape sees fit to go back to their original vision of a better, leaner browser than IE I will gladly give them a chance. However, I don't see that as happening, since Mozilla is now out (and Netscape is based on Mozilla, not the other way around). The Mozilla project is being funded by AOL also (something that concerns me quite a lot (can we say Time-Warner's version of Palladium?)). And people are allowed to their opinions, including the opinion to knock whatever program they want. They are also entitled to change their opinions. I like Opera a lot better than IE or Netscape till Mozilla release its official 1.0 version. Now IE joins Netscape, sitting on a little corner of my hard drive, for website testing and helping answer tech questions about these two programs. I offered my opinions and observations as just that, not facts. Sorry for the rant. But between this list and other tech lists that I am on, it feels as if the free tech help world is going to h***. David Weaver Bore: A person who talks when you wish him to listen. - Ambrose Bierce -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Fuselier Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:54 AM To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Mozilla and Netscape For one thing, I have gotten pretty fed up with smartaleck knowitall newbies knocking Netscape 4.xx. It still works better and faster and is more intuitively user friendly than anything else I ever tried. Is this a free country for browser choice or not? Jack F "David J. Weaver" wrote: > > Mozilla is the engine that Netscape uses. It is also the basis for KMeleon, > and some other open-source browsers. > > Personally I would like to see Mozilla as the new standard rather than IE. > Mozilla is cross-OS compatible, it isn't owned by any one person, and they > take new ideas seriously. It's free, easy to use and add-ons are readily > available. It's also quick. > > Let's hear anyone (including Bill) say that about IE. > > David Weaver ============================== Tact and diplomacy is no defense against muggers <http://www.gunsmith.fuselier.com> East Texas To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/