-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial
- From: "Lois Yaw" <jyaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:20:59 -0400
Thanks. I should have been able to figure this out for myself but It got
right past me.
Lois Yaw
Hopewell,Ohio
jyaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: <sirtroth@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 12:40 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial
> In Explorer, if you change to DETAIL VIEW ( VIEW > DETAILS ), your
> shortcuts will show as, well, a shortcut under file type. With any other
> view, assuming you haven't changed the default look of a shortcut's icon,
> shortcuts will have a small little arrow overlayed on the icon.
> ---Troth
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Lois Yaw <jyaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 11:53:44 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial
>
> I know I can delete the shortcuts that either I or programs have placed on
> my desktop but where in Explorer do you find shortcuts that should be
> deleted? When I look, I see exe. files but I wouldn't know how to
> recognize
> an unneeded shortcut.
> Lois Yaw
> Hopewell,Ohio
> jyaw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "GMan" <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 3:10 AM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial
>
>
>> Sandi,
>> You'd get your info from someone else. lol
>>
>> The old lists most likely both pertain to older operating systems.
>> Fixedsys, MSDOS, and System are all fonts that are used for Win9x/ME OS's
>> since they had a true DOS underlayment (NT based OS's only emulate DOS
>> when
>> you call for a Command Prompt window).
>>
>> I'll go through my Fonts folder and type out the names of the ones
>> shown
>> (to eliminate those numbered ones) so you'll know for sure. I have yet
>> to
>> add any fonts from any source to this newer install, so the list will
>> only
>> include the ones supplied by WinXP upon installation. I'll suggest that
>> you
>> save the post for future reference. :O)
>>
>> Like I said in my last post, delete ALL of the shortcuts in your
>> Windows
>> Font folder and start over. There's absolutely no sense in leaving
>> something that could confuse the situation and deleting shortcuts won't
>> hurt
>> a thing. It's deleting the originals that you have to avoid.
>>
>> Once the shortcuts are gone, wait for my post of the original fonts
>> before proceeding. I'll include a short tutorial on how to make the rest
>> of
>> it much easier that how you've been doing it. The rest of this reply
>> should
>> be added to what I've already discussed, but not acted on until I send in
>> the next post to this thread.
>>
>>
>> There are several different types of fonts. Describing them fully
>> would
>> be well beyond the scope of this post (and more than most folks could
>> probably tolerate), so here's a link with a well worded full description
>> of
>> the different types.
>> http://anakin.ncst.ernet.in/~aparna/consolidated/x1057.html
>>
>> The READ ONLY files were most likely set like that intentionally by
>> the
>> app that put them there in order to discourage you from removing them.
>> It
>> seems to be working, too. hehe. Right click in a blank area of the
>> Fonts
>> folder and select View > Details from the resulting context menu. Then,
>> look to the column titles for one called Attributes. It tells you what
>> attributes have been set for each font. If you click on it, the window
>> will
>> reorder the list so that all of the READ ONLY files are together on a
>> row.
>> Then you can more easily scroll down (or up) to them and select the bunch
>> of
>> them at once (click the top one, scroll down as necessary to see the last
>> one, hold down the SHIFT key while you select that last one). Once
>> they're
>> all selected, right click on one of them and select Properties from the
>> menu. Uncheck the READ ONLY box and click on Apply. It may ask you to
>> confirm your choice. Select Yes to that.
>>
>> Finally, as long as it's not a font needed by Windows, it won't
>> permanently hurt anything to Move it out of there and into your Xtra
>> folder.
>> If it turns out that one of the apps you use actually needs it in order
>> to
>> function, you can move it to your 'In Use' folder and create a shortcut
>> for
>> it in Windows/Fonts then.
>>
>> I thought of a small modification to my last suggested order for
>> getting
>> this the way you want it. The results are below.
>>
>> Before you start any fo the following, your font storage area (the one
>> away from the Windows folder and preferably on a different partition or
>> drive) should be set up like this. The actual names of these folders is
>> up
>> to you, but the meanings should be cleared up by the instructions
>> following
>> it.
>>
>> +My Documents
>> + FONTS
>> + IN USE
>> + ORIGINAL
>> + XTRA
>>
>> 1. Delete every shortcut you find in the Windows Fonts folder. No
>> Exceptions! This will eliminate the possibility of any remaining broken
>> ones and anything that could complicate the rest of this procedure. Any
>> that you really want will be recreated shortly.
>>
>> 2. Using Windows Explorer (along with the instructions and list of
>> original fonts in my next post), Move ALL of your non-original Windows
>> fonts
>> from the Windows/Fonts folder to the My Documents/FONTS/XTRA folder.
>> This
>> will leave the Windows/Fonts folder with nothing in it except for the
>> original fonts. The original Windows fonts should then be Copied (not
>> moved) from the Windows/Fonts folder directly to the "Original" folder so
>> as
>> to leave the originals in the Windows Font folder. Finally, run a search
>> over your entire collection of hard drives & partitions for any other
>> stray
>> fonts that may be lurking in program folders or elsewhere. Since those
>> programs probably need the fonts left right where they are, Copy them
>> from
>> the Search results window into your XTRA folder (CTRL+A will select them
>> all
>> in that window). If you get a warning that a font already exists while
>> copying them there, select No to replacing it.
>>
>> 3. At this point, every font everywhere in your computer should be in
>> either your 'XTRA' or 'ORIGINAL' folder. The original Windows fonts are
>> also in the Windows/Font folder and any that you found in other locations
>> will still also be in those other locations. So, it's now time to start
>> going through the entire XTRA folder to choose which of the fonts in the
>> XTRA folder are good enough to be chosen for an "IN USE" upgrade. To do
>> this right, you'll need to install and use a Font Manager type program.
>> Several have already been suggested and this is the perfect time to give
>> each of them a spin. Install one of them and use it to go through all of
>> the fonts that start with a number (if there aren't enough of those,
>> continue through til the end of the A's). Any fonts that you really like
>> should be immediately Moved into your IN USE folder. When you're done
>> with
>> the numbered files (and perhaps the A's), install another manager and use
>> that for the next batch. Rinse & Repeat as necessary to get through all
>> of
>> the managers you choose to test out. Using these apps for a relatively
>> small group of fonts should give you some idea of which one is best for
>> your
>> needs. Once you've chosen your favorite manager app, uninstall the rest
>> and
>> get to work going through the remaining fonts in the XTRA folder. When
>> you're finished, move on to step 4 below.
>>
>> 4. Select (CTRL+A) all of the files that made it into the IN USE
>> folder,
>> Right drag them to the Windows Fonts folder and select Create Shortcut
>> from
>> the menu. Note that from now on, all of your "In Use" fonts MUST remain
>> where they are or you will break these shortcuts. That includes the fact
>> that you will not be able to move the folder anywhere other than where it
>> is
>> right now.
>>
>> 5. If at any time in the future you choose to move or remove a font
>> from
>> your IN USE folder, you will also need to delete its shortcut from the
>> Windows Font folder. If you choose to add a font to the IN USE folder,
>> you
>> will have to create a shortcut to it in the Windows Font folder before
>> you
>> can use it like the others.
>>
>> I hope that this post is able to fully clarify all of the semi-random
>> thoughts I've given up to this point. I know all too well that my posts
>> can
>> sometimes feel like they're leading you folks in circles, but that
>> doesn't
>> make it any easier for me to type out things that I normally do on
>> autopilot. Still, making mistakes & fixing the mess has always been the
>> absolute BEST way to learn anything worth knowing. Besides, if this
>> stuff
>> was easy, everybody wou ..., oh wait. Everybody IS diong it.
>> ;O}
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Peace,
>> GMan
>>
>> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!"
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sandi Beach" <sandib2@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 9:21 AM
>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Fonts Tutorial
>>
>>
>>> Whatever would I do without you??? One more thing though. I am
>>> working
>>> from an old list of necessary fonts which was created by Nightsneak in
>>> 2001
>>> plus a newer one I got from"ABC~All 'Bout Computer" which started out
>>> with
>>> "I am not an expert on fonts but here are a few that you need to keep
>>> for
>>> Windows to run well, so make sure you don't remove these:"
>>> I guess as long as I an not deleting anything but shortcuts I can always
>>> correct any mistakes I make.
>>> Some of those that are on these two lists I do not have such as:
>>> Fixedsys,
>>> MSDOS, and System. There may be others as I have not gone completely
>>> through all 700 + yet. I spent about an hour last night moving fonts I
>>> did
>>> not think I would ever use, being careful not to touch the essential
>>> ones,
>>> and got through the C's.
>>> I got messages on some of them that they were read only and did I still
>>> want
>>> to move them. I left those alone as I did not know what that meant. I
>>> think they may have come from Open Office as they had a large O instead
>>> of
>>> the usual font icon. Some said that particular font was already there
>>> so
>>> I
>>> didn't move those either. Maybe the ones I "rounded up as loose in C
>>> Windows"? Anyway I put all of those in their own folder labeled loose
>>> fonts!
>>> Now what will happen to all of this that I have done when I go back and
>>> start over and follow your instructions to the letter??? Am I beyond
>>> redemption? I have none at the moment in the "in use" folder since I
>>> moved
>>> Amazone back successfully.
>>> Also I was afraid to move any Hallmark fonts or CAC
>>> fonts for fear of messing up those two card programs.
>>> Amazone no longer has a little arrow showing it to be a shortcut but
>>> there
>>> are several in the Windows fonts folder with shortcut arrows. I have no
>>> idea how they got there as shortcuts. Perhaps I should carefully write
>>> down
>>> those that are shortcuts before deleteing them just in case?
>>> Sorry to be such a pain but so glad you see the humor in it!!!!
>>> Off to the wedding.
>>> Sandi
>>
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