-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Cascading Wireless Routers

  • From: Disastar <disastar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:50:41 -0500

I'm interested in a solution to this also.  I found one guy in a thread that
stated that the public router should be the one connected to the modem, and
the private one connected to that one.  I don't know if that person knows
what he is talking about, but it might make sense.  I don't know enough
about NAT addressing to understand fully, but it sounds plausible to me that
since the first router (from the modem) is providing IP to the second one,
it must trust it, where the second one (private) can be set to only allow
certain MAC addresses for high security.  The thing that bothers me is that
I don't know how NAT (Network Address Translating) works, which is the
mechanism used to allow multiple PC's with separate IP's to communicate with
the internet through one IP.

Anyway, I know using the separate subnet's are necessary, but I'm not sure
how this setup affects the security.  I wasn't aware of the 172.? subnets.

A quick search I found a router that has dual-network built in:
http://www.versatek.com/products/w-vxap200.htm


-----Original Message-----
From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gman
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:52 PM
To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Cascading Wireless Routers

Dan,
    The answer you seek is a resounding YES, you can!  But that doesn't mean

I have the know-how to help you put one together.

    I can tell you that one of the networks will rely on the standard 
192.168.x.x addresses for the systems that can access it (I would try to 
make this the one that your friends connect to, just to keep their 
connections simple), while the other can use one of the other two address 
ranges set aside for private networks (10.x.x.x OR 172.16.0.0 - 
172.31.255.255 ).  Most routers have the means within their settings areas 
to allow you to dictate which address scheme you wish to use for that 
network, so one router might be set to use 10.x.x.x with the other set to 
use 192.168.x.x.  The first router in the chain (the one serving your own 
network) will get its internet feed from your assigned external ISP IP (the 
router will set this part up automatically).  The second router will get its

internet feed from whatever IP is assigned to it by the first router.  So, 
if your primary network is using the 10.x.x.x range, it may give the second 
router an IP of 10.0.0.5 to feed from.  That second router will them 
distribute that feed to each of its 192.168.x.x systems as well as handle 
all of the routing between the systems on the secondary network.  I'm not 
sure how easy/possible it would be to "LAN Party" across the two IP ranges, 
if that's what you're after.

    To get specific info beyond that, you'll have to do your research and 
map out the full structure (along with necessary settings) well before you 
begin physically putting it together.  Like most things, it'll be easy to do

once you know what needs to be done.  The hard part is working through all 
the info you'll likely find on the subject to figure out which of it 
pertains to your needs.

Peace,
Gman

"The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
http://www.bornagainamerican.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Chisolm" <d0ct0rdan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 5:10 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Cascading Wireless Routers


>
> Is there a way to cascade two wireless routers such that each is on a 
> separate network (security enabled)?  During visits, I want my friends 
> (with PDAs) to be able to access the Internet wirelessly on a network, 
> which is separate from mine.  This is so that I could maintain my network 
> security.
>
> Thanks in advance for your response.
>
> Dan 

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