-=PCTechTalk=- Re: CLOCK
- From: "Robert Andrew Dulaney Jr." <rdulaneyjr@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 09:14:22 -0700 (PDT)
I never have ether MS Bluebelle. But if it is left plugged in as I believe she
has said the battery should not be faulty. it uses the battery when no other
power sourse is available.
I am awfully foggy in the head - obviously I am not building systems today.
maybe I shoul put a disclaimer in my e-mails to this board, at least till my
head clears :-)
Bluebelle <bluebelle1st@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Just to clarify---This is the little CMOS battery that is between the size
of a nickel and a quarter (looks like a big watch battery) that is on all
motherboards. It can last a long time or go out tomorrow. It only costs a
small amount to replace it. About 1-3 dollars. Losing time is almost always
a symptom of its failure but I have never heard of its losing part of the
screen for time. That is why I have not answered before.
Here is one place that that tells you how. There are many others, search for
CMOS battery.
http://www.cybertechhelp.com/html/tutorials/tutorial.php/id/58
Bluebelle
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don"
To:
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: CLOCK
> I'm trying to learn something here, so....
>
> Why is the battery your best bet? Let's say the battery is bad. That
> means no juice or too little juice to the clock when the computer is
> turned
> off which means the time will not be correct when you turn the computer
> back
> on. I've had bad time in the BIOS and never had problems with the time
> setting interface. When you turn the computer back on, the wall socket is
> the source of power instead of the battery. So, in theory anyway, the
> problem should go away.
>
> If the BIOS is telling the time setting interface "we have a problem with
> the battery", wouldn't the interface simply tell us "check battery" rather
> than cause a single tab in the interface to malfunction?
>
> I'm thinking the BIOS does not communicate anything to the windows Time
> setting interface and that Windows does not care what time it is..
> Instead
> the interface reads the BIOS and simply displays what it reads. If
> Windows
> and the time setting interface don't care if the BIOS time is correct or
> not
> how does this cause the Time Zone tab to be inoperative?
>
> Why is this the first time I have ever heard of this problem? Has anyone
> else? Why can I not find anything on the M$ website about this problem?
> Why can't I find anything about this problem in a Google search? I can
> think of two possible answers...
>
> 1. The problem is UNIQUE. Literally. It requires the combination of the
> uniqueness of her total computer system and just the right character(s)
> corrupted in a billion lines of code to cause this problem.
>
> 2. The problem is caused by something that was done to the computer or
> the
> software, either intentionally, accidentally or by virus/worm/adware etc.
> A
> permission setting has been changed. A file attribute or name changed. A
> diagnostic procedure did something wrong.
>
> This line of thinking suggests to me that the way to fix the problem is to
> do a repair or reinstall of the operating system. And it may require a
> clean install on a freshly formatted hard drive. And it may also require
> downloading of any new/updated drivers for the various components of the
> system and updates/patches for the applications to be installed.
>
> If it was me, and I had a spare hard drive laying around or could afford
> to
> buy a new (or used) one (and make good use of it afterwards), I would
> install it and put a clean install of Windows on it and see if the problem
> still exists. If the problem is gone, I'd leave that harddrive in and use
> it until I had time to go back and do a backup of the other drive and then
> format and install Windows on it.
>
> If I didn't have a spare or could not make good use of a new one after the
> problem is fixed, then I would backup the drive, FDISK and format it and
> then do a clean install complete with patches, updated drivers and updated
> software.
>
> OR, I would say the hell with it and learn to live with the problem.
>
>
> Everyone is welcome to take punches at my line of thinking... poke holes
> in
> my logic... present other ideas... I just find this puzzle interesting
> and
> trying to learn something from it.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Andrew Dulaney Jr."
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:38 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: CLOCK
>
>
>> Nor am I a GURU, But yes the BIOS and the O/S communicate with each other
>> and should be fine as long as the BIOS clock and batteryis in good
>> working
>> order
>> however you do have software in the O/S that "talks to the BIOS" and
>> allows the
>> BIOS to "talk to the O/S"
>>
>> so as you see your thinking is not bad - however there is a software
>> interface that
>> could be the malfunction.
>>
>> My best bet is the Clock Battery, but an overinstall (repair) would
>> defently prove it was
>> not the O/S - on the otherhand - replacing the battery leaves just the
>> BIOS or the O/S.
>> it's a matter of what is easier for you to do to nail the problem and the
>> way you go about troubleshooting.
>>
>> Sorry if this is a bit late in comming, I am not feeling well and am back
>> and forth in /out of bed
>> probably not a good tme to be doing this stuff either.
>>
>
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