Gman, does this mean that you already had 2 drives and then you got the enclosures (housings?) and put the drives in that? And these drives are USB2? Your mention of 500Gs made me drool, : ) As do 2 new memory sticks, both at 1G which would give me 2Gs. I have replaced and installed bad and larger drives in my old pc, as well as modems, memory of course, a floppy drive and a CD RW drive. I'm not afraid of getting under the hood, so to speak. It's some of the other things I am unsure of, like is this pc capable of running another internal drive? It appears to me that there is an empty bay. And how do I determine these things? And external for just backups sounds just like what I think I would like to have. I think that the memory is capped at 2Gs. The idea of a 1 button approach is inticing. I'll head on over to NewEgg soon and check those out; I figured you weren't knocking Tiger Direct. A years ago I bought some things at NewEgg; I had forgotten that. Also at CDW and PC Zone...boy that seems like a very long time ago. Again, thanks for the new information, Sammi Gman wrote: > Sammi, > There are two manufacturer approaches to the type of external you > should > consider. One of them is simply an internal drive mounted into an > external > enclosure. You basically treat these as you would any other drive, > except > at a slower access speed if you use any connection other than eSATA > (which > many systems still don't support). The other type is an external > that is > dedicated solely to backups. These come with their own software that > allow > you to press a button (often right on the external) to have your > system > backed up without further assistance from you. I bought two regular > external enclosures and put in my own drives. > > I'll also add that I often find better prices (sometimes free > shipping, > too) when I order through NewEgg. I am a customer of both, so this > is not a > knock on TigerD. > > Peace, > G > > "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:24 PM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Burning question--Lil > > >> Hey Gman, >> >> I understand what you mean with this information. And it is good >> advice, I think as soon as I am sure my newly burned disks are >> working correctly, I do >> as you suggest with those older ones that are still good and copy >> them anew. >> >> BTW, that CD had a label on it from when I was entranced with what >> the program could do. I never did it again, thankfully. I think that >> printed adhesive label might be part of the problem, like you said. >> I could see little flaws in the material of the burning side of the >> CD, too. I have always used Sharpies, but now I see from you guys >> that is bad, too. I'll have to get some of the CD/DVD safe pens. >> >> Here is what I did last night with the one that said it was zero >> bytes: I fired up my old W98 and put in the disk that was in >> question. I could hardly >> believe my eyes!! It showed up on that machine. So I thought I would >> copy the CD contents to a newly created shared folder on the old >> machine. But, the CD drive was only able to copy about half of them. >> >> Hmm. Then I used some mild handsoap and cleaned and dried the CD. >> Rebooted the XP machine, put in the CD and holy cow...there were the >> files. But it couldn't access all of the files, I kept getting a >> error that it couldn't read from the source. And one about a >> redundancy check problem. Between the >> two computers, I just kept trying and trying until I was finally >> able to copy the files to a folder on the XP. Then I reinstalled >> EZC-6 from the folder. I use Total Commander >> (http://www.ghisler.com/) for transfering files from one pc to >> another, works great! >> >> I appreciate the info on the eternal hard drives; I looked at Tiger >> Direct this a.m. and will be looking around more I figure I would >> like at least the >> same or a bit more as the hard drive I have now, and it is 145 >> capacity. I saw one that was about $125 but now I can't remember >> which was which. CRS! I >> would like to stay at around $90 to $125 max. I realize that no media >> lasts >> forever, nor will I! Ha-hah. But it is good to be reminded that I >> should back up what I have worked so hard to find and that which I >> have created. I >> am really leaning on getting an external hard drive. >> >> Thanks so much, >> Sammi >> >> Gman wrote: >>> Two things, Sammi. >>> >>> First, CD blank media does not last as 'lifetime' as the earliest >>> marketing >>> of that medium reported. The 'pressed' ones (retail CDs & DVDs) >>> last a long >>> time, but the ones we burn ourselves are burned onto a different >>> type of >>> film (it's typically a metal foil sandwiched between two clear >>> layers). The >>> 'pressed' ones also use actual hills and valleys created by the >>> pressing, >>> where ours are nowhere near as deep or tall (burning only melts the >>> foil and >>> it can only move so much as a result). Consequently, writable disks >>> (CD-R, >>> DVD-R, DVD+R) should only be trusted for several years before being >>> replaced >>> (copy the contents back to the drive and re-burn them onto a new >>> disk). All >>> Re-writables were never meant for long term storage and shouldn't be >>> trusted >>> for more than a year. >>> >>> Since you have found a disk that used to be good but is now showing >>> as blank, you may want to try running a recovery utility on it to >>> see if any of >>> it can be recovered. Unfortunately, I have never tried any of >>> these, so I >>> don't have a specific app to recommend. Still, here are some you >>> might want >>> to consider. Just keep in mind that it's an old list. :O) >>> >>> CDCheck >>> CD Data Rescue >>> CD-R Diagnostic >>> >>> The second thing I wanted to mention is that the price of hard >>> drives, including externals, has really dropped a lot recently so >>> it may be more >>> affordable than you're thinking. I tend to do the math to determine >>> the >>> size that's cheapest in $/GB (cost per GB) and the sweet spot is >>> still the >>> 500GB models. I'm about to order my second 500GB drive which will >>> cost me >>> about $90 US. Depending on your space needs, you could go with >>> something >>> much smaller than that for less. The external models tend to go for >>> about >>> $10 more, so you'd be getting a $20 enclosure for half price. Just >>> make >>> sure it uses the best connection method your system can handle >>> (eSATA runs >>> at the same speed as an internal but still rare on systems, Firewire >>> is next >>> and not quite as rare, USB 2.0 works fine for most systems and USB >>> 1.x is >>> way back in last place and almost too slow for regular use). If you >>> know >>> your specific needs/wants, let us know and we'll locate you some >>> good prices. >>> >>> Peace, >>> G >>> >>> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!" >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:36 PM >>> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Burning question--Lil >>> >>> >>>> Not to worry Lil, I was late replying to your message! And yes, >>>> there were a >>>> bunch of msgs to download. I haven't been online the past couple of >>>> days since I am trying to better organize my files. >>>> >>>> I am still having some problems, but not as severe as they were. I >>>> was going >>>> to reinstall EZC-6...I dove into my big "pc" box where I have lots >>>> and lots >>>> of old programs, floppy diskettes, books and all-around OLD pc >>>> stuff. I found my backup copy CD for it, but I have not yet found >>>> my original. Oh well, I thought...I'll just pop this backup I made >>>> a long time ago. I did and I was surprised that it showed there was >>>> nothing on the disk! I know I used it when I first got this pc, so >>>> at one time it was OK. Now I'll have to >>>> go out to the cold garage and see if I can find my original. >>>> >>>> You asked if I had deleted the original files, no I didn't do that. >>>> I'm hoping to save them before something horrid happens. In my big >>>> pc box, I did >>>> find some CDs that I made with EZC-6 over 2 years ago on this pc >>>> and they are good! A few of the files have no extension, but the >>>> file size is right; >>>> I copied and pasted one onto my desktop and added the .jpg...wow, >>>> it worked! >>>> I opened it with ACDsee and it was gorgeous. Only the ones with 0 >>>> bytes are >>>> not good. >>>> >>>> I understand completely about your dogs...and cats, too. We have 2 >>>> dogs, one >>>> is an American Pit Bull Terrier and I will tell you that we have >>>> had *many* >>>> dogs over our 46 years, but he is the sweetest, smartest most >>>> well-mannered >>>> dog we have ever had. He is nearly perfect! Gentlemanly but funny, >>>> too. Bad >>>> owners, bad breeders and the media have given the properly raised >>>> dogs a bad >>>> name. Our two cats were already established, and they taught him >>>> manners early! >>>> >>>> The bull mastiff has a little red-nose Staffordshire in him, but he >>>> too is so sweet, even though he was terribly abused for about 4 >>>> years. He was so starved that he couldn't stand up. Our grandson >>>> had to carry him in, and I thought it was a sack of bones. He is >>>> scarred all over, but many of the scars are not as visible any >>>> more. His poor ears were a mass of puncture wounds. >>>> >>>> I never dreamed when we took him on as a rescue, that he would be >>>> so sweet. >>>> I thought we would really have our hands full...I also thought that >>>> he would >>>> 'hate' people because of how he was treated. But, other than >>>> wanting to sit >>>> on my lap, he is pretty good. Like many mastiffs, he is a bit >>>> willful, but wants so badly to please that he becomes totally >>>> bummed out if he thinks he >>>> messed up. And wants to make it up to you by extra kisses, ha-hah. >>>> >>>> You mentioned a possible problem with the DVD drive, it is possible >>>> and I did wonder about that, I have played audio CDs in it teday, >>>> with no trouble. >>>> But since it is a combo, it might just be. >>>> >>>> I'll be working on the backup problem. I can't afford it really, >>>> but I was even considering an external hard drive. Don't know for >>>> sure at this point. >>>> >>>> Sammi --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. 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