-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Burning question--Lil
- From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 21:54:05 -0600
Well, gee whiz! The price sounds right...the Gbs sound good! 500Gbs, is this
heaven? I wouldn't have to worry that I would fill it up in this life time,
ha-hah.
Or maybe I would.
Reckon I'll have to get out my plastic, since it's a 3+hours drive to the
nearest Staples from here. Same for Office Depot, and Costco. Wal-Mart &
Kmart about 1 1/2 hour ...but gotta take our big dogs with us, the big
babies. They are never left alone.
Thank you kindly, Sir Troth...unless I hear of any negative thoughts from
the other Guru's, I'll order it tonight!
Sammi
~OoO~ wrote:
> Here goes...
>
> Maxtor 500GB OneTouch 4 External Hard Drive
> http://tinyurl.com/49wa9x
>
> Can't beat that one!
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sammi
> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:24 PM
> To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Burning question--Lil
>
> Gman, does this mean that you already had 2 drives and then you got
> the=20
> enclosures (housings?) and put the drives in that? And these drives
> are=20
> USB2? Your mention of 500Gs made me drool, : ) As do 2 new memory =
> sticks,=20
> both at 1G which would give me 2Gs.
>
> I have replaced and installed bad and larger drives in my old pc, as =
> well as
>
> modems, memory of course, a floppy drive and a CD RW drive. I'm not =
> afraid=20
> of getting under the hood, so to speak. It's some of the other things
> I =
> am=20
> unsure of, like is this pc capable of running another internal drive?
> It =
>
> appears to me that there is an empty bay. And how do I determine
> these=20
> things? And external for just backups sounds just like what I think I
> =
> would=20
> like to have. I think that the memory is capped at 2Gs.
>
> The idea of a 1 button approach is inticing. I'll head on over to
> NewEgg =
>
> soon and check those out; I figured you weren't knocking Tiger
> Direct. A =
>
> years ago I bought some things at NewEgg; I had forgotten that. Also
> at =
> CDW=20
> and PC Zone...boy that seems like a very long time ago.
>
> Again, thanks for the new information,
> Sammi
>
> Gman wrote:
>> Sammi,
>> There are two manufacturer approaches to the type of external you
>> should
>> consider. One of them is simply an internal drive mounted into an
>> external
>> enclosure. You basically treat these as you would any other drive,
>> except
>> at a slower access speed if you use any connection other than eSATA
>> (which
>> many systems still don't support). The other type is an external
>> that is
>> dedicated solely to backups. These come with their own software that
>> allow
>> you to press a button (often right on the external) to have your
>> system
>> backed up without further assistance from you. I bought two regular
>> external enclosures and put in my own drives.
>>
>> I'll also add that I often find better prices (sometimes free
>> shipping,
>> too) when I order through NewEgg. I am a customer of both, so this
>> is not a
>> knock on TigerD.
>>
>> Peace,
>> G
>>
>> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!"
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:24 PM
>> Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Burning question--Lil
>>
>>
>>> Hey Gman,
>>>
>>> I understand what you mean with this information. And it is good
>>> advice, I think as soon as I am sure my newly burned disks are
>>> working correctly, I do
>>> as you suggest with those older ones that are still good and copy
>>> them anew.
>>>
>>> BTW, that CD had a label on it from when I was entranced with what
>>> the program could do. I never did it again, thankfully. I think that
>>> printed adhesive label might be part of the problem, like you said.
>>> I could see little flaws in the material of the burning side of the
>>> CD, too. I have always used Sharpies, but now I see from you guys
>>> that is bad, too. I'll have to get some of the CD/DVD safe pens.
>>>
>>> Here is what I did last night with the one that said it was zero
>>> bytes: I fired up my old W98 and put in the disk that was in
>>> question. I could hardly
>>> believe my eyes!! It showed up on that machine. So I thought I would
>>> copy the CD contents to a newly created shared folder on the old
>>> machine. But, the CD drive was only able to copy about half of them.
>>>
>>> Hmm. Then I used some mild handsoap and cleaned and dried the CD.
>>> Rebooted the XP machine, put in the CD and holy cow...there were the
>>> files. But it couldn't access all of the files, I kept getting a
>>> error that it couldn't read from the source. And one about a
>>> redundancy check problem. Between the
>>> two computers, I just kept trying and trying until I was finally
>>> able to copy the files to a folder on the XP. Then I reinstalled
>>> EZC-6 from the folder. I use Total Commander
>>> (http://www.ghisler.com/) for transfering files from one pc to
>>> another, works great!
>>>
>>> I appreciate the info on the eternal hard drives; I looked at Tiger
>>> Direct this a.m. and will be looking around more I figure I would
>>> like at least the
>>> same or a bit more as the hard drive I have now, and it is 145
>>> capacity. I saw one that was about $125 but now I can't remember
>>> which was which. CRS! I
>>> would like to stay at around $90 to $125 max. I realize that no
>>> media lasts
>>> forever, nor will I! Ha-hah. But it is good to be reminded that I
>>> should back up what I have worked so hard to find and that which I
>>> have created. I
>>> am really leaning on getting an external hard drive.
>>>
>>> Thanks so much,
>>> Sammi
>>>
>>> Gman wrote:
>>>> Two things, Sammi.
>>>>
>>>> First, CD blank media does not last as 'lifetime' as the earliest
>>>> marketing
>>>> of that medium reported. The 'pressed' ones (retail CDs & DVDs)
>>>> last a long
>>>> time, but the ones we burn ourselves are burned onto a different
>>>> type of
>>>> film (it's typically a metal foil sandwiched between two clear
>>>> layers). The
>>>> 'pressed' ones also use actual hills and valleys created by the
>>>> pressing,
>>>> where ours are nowhere near as deep or tall (burning only melts the
>>>> foil and
>>>> it can only move so much as a result). Consequently, writable
>>>> disks (CD-R,
>>>> DVD-R, DVD+R) should only be trusted for several years before being
>>>> replaced
>>>> (copy the contents back to the drive and re-burn them onto a new
>>>> disk). All
>>>> Re-writables were never meant for long term storage and shouldn't
>>>> be trusted
>>>> for more than a year.
>>>>
>>>> Since you have found a disk that used to be good but is now showing
>>>> as blank, you may want to try running a recovery utility on it to
>>>> see if any of
>>>> it can be recovered. Unfortunately, I have never tried any of
>>>> these, so I
>>>> don't have a specific app to recommend. Still, here are some you
>>>> might want
>>>> to consider. Just keep in mind that it's an old list. :O)
>>>>
>>>> CDCheck
>>>> CD Data Rescue
>>>> CD-R Diagnostic
>>>>
>>>> The second thing I wanted to mention is that the price of hard
>>>> drives, including externals, has really dropped a lot recently so
>>>> it may be more
>>>> affordable than you're thinking. I tend to do the math to
>>>> determine the
>>>> size that's cheapest in $/GB (cost per GB) and the sweet spot is
>>>> still the
>>>> 500GB models. I'm about to order my second 500GB drive which will
>>>> cost me
>>>> about $90 US. Depending on your space needs, you could go with
>>>> something
>>>> much smaller than that for less. The external models tend to go
>>>> for about
>>>> $10 more, so you'd be getting a $20 enclosure for half price. Just
>>>> make
>>>> sure it uses the best connection method your system can handle
>>>> (eSATA runs
>>>> at the same speed as an internal but still rare on systems,
>>>> Firewire is next
>>>> and not quite as rare, USB 2.0 works fine for most systems and USB
>>>> 1.x is
>>>> way back in last place and almost too slow for regular use). If
>>>> you know
>>>> your specific needs/wants, let us know and we'll locate you some
>>>> good prices.
>>>>
>>>> Peace,
>>>> G
>>>>
>>>> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask!"
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Sammi" <sammi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:36 PM
>>>> Subject: -=3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: Burning question--Lil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Not to worry Lil, I was late replying to your message! And yes,
>>>>> there were a
>>>>> bunch of msgs to download. I haven't been online the past couple
>>>>> of days since I am trying to better organize my files.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am still having some problems, but not as severe as they were. I
>>>>> was going
>>>>> to reinstall EZC-6...I dove into my big "pc" box where I have lots
>>>>> and lots
>>>>> of old programs, floppy diskettes, books and all-around OLD pc
>>>>> stuff. I found my backup copy CD for it, but I have not yet found
>>>>> my original. Oh well, I thought...I'll just pop this backup I made
>>>>> a long time ago. I did and I was surprised that it showed there
>>>>> was nothing on the disk! I know I used it when I first got this
>>>>> pc, so at one time it was OK. Now I'll have to
>>>>> go out to the cold garage and see if I can find my original.
>>>>>
>>>>> You asked if I had deleted the original files, no I didn't do
>>>>> that. I'm hoping to save them before something horrid happens. In
>>>>> my big pc box, I did
>>>>> find some CDs that I made with EZC-6 over 2 years ago on this pc
>>>>> and they are good! A few of the files have no extension, but the
>>>>> file size is right;
>>>>> I copied and pasted one onto my desktop and added the .jpg...wow,
>>>>> it worked!
>>>>> I opened it with ACDsee and it was gorgeous. Only the ones with 0
>>>>> bytes are
>>>>> not good.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand completely about your dogs...and cats, too. We have 2
>>>>> dogs, one
>>>>> is an American Pit Bull Terrier and I will tell you that we have
>>>>> had *many*
>>>>> dogs over our 46 years, but he is the sweetest, smartest most
>>>>> well-mannered
>>>>> dog we have ever had. He is nearly perfect! Gentlemanly but funny,
>>>>> too. Bad
>>>>> owners, bad breeders and the media have given the properly raised
>>>>> dogs a bad
>>>>> name. Our two cats were already established, and they taught him
>>>>> manners early!
>>>>>
>>>>> The bull mastiff has a little red-nose Staffordshire in him, but
>>>>> he too is so sweet, even though he was terribly abused for about 4
>>>>> years. He was so starved that he couldn't stand up. Our grandson
>>>>> had to carry him in, and I thought it was a sack of bones. He is
>>>>> scarred all over, but many of the scars are not as visible any
>>>>> more. His poor ears were a mass of puncture wounds.
>>>>>
>>>>> I never dreamed when we took him on as a rescue, that he would be
>>>>> so sweet.
>>>>> I thought we would really have our hands full...I also thought
>>>>> that he would
>>>>> 'hate' people because of how he was treated. But, other than
>>>>> wanting to sit
>>>>> on my lap, he is pretty good. Like many mastiffs, he is a bit
>>>>> willful, but wants so badly to please that he becomes totally
>>>>> bummed out if he thinks he
>>>>> messed up. And wants to make it up to you by extra kisses, ha-hah.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mentioned a possible problem with the DVD drive, it is
>>>>> possible and I did wonder about that, I have played audio CDs in
>>>>> it teday, with no trouble.
>>>>> But since it is a combo, it might just be.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be working on the backup problem. I can't afford it really,
>>>>> but I was even considering an external hard drive. Don't know for
>>>>> sure at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sammi=20
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