My sentiments exactly. I used to be a die hard Norton user until the frustration of too many years of headaches and my PC being too slow (that I traced down to Norton), I finally switched years ago. I tried several other products of which they never seemed to fit my requirements and make me happy, mostly because of slowing down the PC. Kaspersky was the closest, but then I started having problems that I was fairly certain were because of Kaspersky. Then I tried NOD32 about 2 years ago and I was hooked after the first month. I never understood why some reviews didn't cover NOD32 since the ones that did cover it always showed NOD32 in the top 3. I think now that Gman might be right, that some reviews didn't cover it because it used to be too tech-oriented for the reviews for the average non-tech user. Now its so easy I have to look in the system tray to make sure its still running. Hehe Ed -----Original Message----- From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gman Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:27 AM To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Antivirus, continued Most folks never hear of the better security apps because they don't advertise like the big two (Symantec & McAfee) and, to a lesser extent, CA. Years ago, AV programs like NOD were tailored much more to the tech-oriented folks who demand control over every aspect of the app. Of course, that's too much control for the average user, so its popularity was never going to rival that of the great Norton & McAfee products. Unfortunately, those two companies BOTH let their popularity go to their collective heads and they started bloating things up and focusing less and less on how well those products provided actual security. Most of us ended up relying on what became junk products to protect us from an online world that was getting more ferocious every day. Companies like Eset saw this and decided to trim down their options in order to offer regular folks a much better product without all of the frills (& bloat). I think they did a great job of making it user friendly without losing any of the protection. It's not nearly as 'tech-oriented' as it used to be, but that's ok by me. It also has a separate "Advanced mode" that opens up many of those options if desired. If it makes you feel any better, Eset's NOD32 has consistantly placed near the top of all AV products in terms of real protection for about as long as I can remember them rating these things. As for it not including other types of protection, I have to apologize since I missed the part where you were looking for a full suite to get for the two of you. I generally avoid those, preferring to use the best individual apps I can get and most of the ones I use together are free. Peace, Gman "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask" http://www.bornagainamerican.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Schoon" <gamemaster@xxxxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:55 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Antivirus, continued > Now I have to ask the obvious question - if this product is so good, why > haven't I heard of them until recently - compared to McAfee and Norton and > (to a lesser extent) CA? > > Also, they seem to be fairly limited in terms of options offered - their > biggest suite only adds a firewall and anti-spam, nothing more (not that > I'm > looking to get the biggest suite offered, mind you). For someone like me > that might be fine, but my mother will click on anything offered to her > (despite my preachings, she still doesn't know better) - I think we'd need > something more than this can offer. And a 2-PC license is $69.99 ($55.99 > from that reseller, which is still quite a bit by our standards especially > considering what is included). > > ----- > Tim --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. 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