we've talked about these in the past - and came up with if a message is sent in rich text, or html, these odd things occur. This can be incredimail, or Outlook express, or other e-mail programs using anything other than plain text when we send them. I try to remember to change my e-mails to plain text before I send them, for this reason. It doesn't always happen though, but in freelists conversion to plain text, it tends to happen more than it doesn't! cris ----- Original Message ----- From: The Keyboard Cowboy To: Joyce Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:20 AM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: AO's and 3D's No, I don't use Incredimail. I'm not sure what started that. I noticed it= too. It seems to have occurred in only a few on my recent posts....and= then stopped. I'm going to watch it for a while. =A0 Regards from Bob -- the "Keyboard Cowboy", =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ,,,,,,,, =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=D4=BF=D4=AC =A0 =A0Cincinnati, Ohio Scottsdale, Arizona --------------------------------- Wednesday, 2/16/2005, @ 11:18:52 AM EST --------------------------------- "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so." - Ronald Reagan =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|:o:|=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:47:55 -0600, Joyce wrote: =A0 | =A0 On this particular message there are a bunch of AO's and 3D's. =A0 | =A0 Is that caused by incredimail? =A0Or something else?I =A0 | =A0 intentionally did not trim so you can see what I am seeing. =A0 | =A0 Joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Keyboard Cowboy" =A0 | =A0 <KBCowboy@xxxxxxxxx>=A0To: "cristy" <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> =A0 | =A0 Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:07 PM Subject: - =A0 | =A0 =3DPCTechTalk=3D- Re: firewall - router =A0 | =A0 | =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 Zone Alarm is far better than noting.......but you should =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 invest in a router=3D =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 switch as well - it adds additional security to your =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 system. =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 Regards from =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 Bob -- the "Keyboard Cowboy", =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 ,,,,,,,, =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0 =3DA0=3DD4=3DBF=3DD4=3DAC =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 =3DA0Cincinnati, Ohio =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 Scottsdale, Arizona =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 --------------------------------- =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 Tuesday, 2/15/2005, @ 11:06:56 PM EST =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 --------------------------------- =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 If quitters never win, and winners never quit, then who =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 is the fool who said, "Quit while you're ahead?" =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0= =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D|:o:|=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=A0 | =A0 =A0|=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 19:33:02 -0500,cristy wrote: =3DA0 |=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 well I just use zone alarm, norouter that I know of=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 but I =3DA0 | =3DA0 guess I am prettysafe then. =3DA0 | =3DA0 |=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 cristy =3DA0 | =3DA0 | =3DA0 -----Original Message -----=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 From: "Mike"<mikebike@xxxxxxxxx>=A0=3DA0 | =3DA0 To:=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 Sent: Tuesday, February 15,2005 6:22 PM =3DA0 |=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 Subject: -=3D3DPCTechTalk=3D3D- Re:firewall - router =3DA0=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 | =3DA0 | =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 HiCristy=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 undesirabletraffic may be any of the=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 following =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0Programs phoning home to=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 report you internet activities =3DA0 |=3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 in=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 order to target=3D3D adds to you =3DA0 |=3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 Trojans=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 allowing hackers to control your computeror to =3DA0 | =3DA0=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0| =3DA0 turn it into a file=3D3Dserver for their illegal=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 use =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 Orallowing a malicious=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 hacker/individual to send =3DA0 | =3DA0=3DA0| =3DA0 messages=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 that appear to=3D3D come from you =3DA0 |=3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 Allow=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 a infection virus/worm/Trojan toreplicate and send=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 itself outfrom=3D3D your computer =3DA0 |=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 Allow yourconfidential=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 information/data/banking or =3DA0 | =3DA0=3DA0| =3DA0 credit=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 card into to be=3D3D sent out =3DA0 |=3DA0 =3DA0|=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 See thatarticle I worte for ABC on=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 Spyware here; =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0http://personal-computer-=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 tutor.com/abc2/v18/mike18.htm =3DA0 |=3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 | =3DA0=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0| =3DA0 Mike ~ one of the Moderators=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 It is a goodday if I learned=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 something new. =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0Editor MikesWhatsNews=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 http://www.mwn.ca/ =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0|=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 ******* Mike's=3DA0REPLY SEPARATOR *****=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 **** =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0|=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 On 2/15/2005at 6:10 PM cristy wrote:=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0|=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 =3DA0 | =3DA0 =3DA0| =3DA0 What wouldundesireable OUT traffice=A0 | =A0 =A0| =A0 be? 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