Sandi, A Group is a universe unto it self. The owner creates it in his own image and has absolute and total freedom to do whatever he wants whenever he wants. Including breaking the rules or making exceptions for a member to break a rule. Group owners devise a set of rules for the operation of their group because they have a vision of what, when, why, how and who will interface within the group. Some owners are more strict than others on adherence to the rules. Some rules may be more strictly enforced than others. This all depends on what the rule is and why it exists. For example, a stationery group may prohibit plain text messages and/or require or prohibit certain color combinations such as yellow font on dark blue background or black font on dark blue background. Violation of the rules, for whatever reason can result in a member being placed on moderation, being removed from group or even being banned from the group. Some owners are kind and benevelent. Some are outright &^%$# dictators. In some cases owners will make exceptions if prior notice is given and permission is granted. If a transgression occurs with permission, OK. If same transgression occurs without permission the member is disciplined. It is possible that the Excel group has a strict rule against any topic except Excel and that prohibition specifically includes "test" messages as well as spam and other off topic messages. Unfortunately, an overwhelming majority of posters (in my groups anyway) that break the rules once will do so on a regular basis and it is good policy to be strict on enforcement. Even to the extreme of banning someone on their first offense. Of all my rules the only violation that will result in an immediate and permanent ban is to post an attack against a person instead of the message. I simply will not allow flames, bashings or even rudely worded complaints about what gets posted. Since my groups are all 100% moderated (with extremely few exceptions) that sort of message never sees the light of day and the poster gets banned from all of my groups, not just the one where he violated the rules. Don > -----Original Message----- > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sandi Beach > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:30 AM > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: From Rick > > On what basis were you expelled from the Excel group? That sounds > pretty > extreme. > Sandi --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To unsubscribe or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join the PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------