Hi Eric, No, haven't tried an update yet for 2 reasons, first I have everything that I can see that is McAfee disabled, and second, I think that's what she told me her daughter did for her right before it cratered. She will be back home Monday so I'm just going to table it until I talk to her. Hey, I just realized I can look in the McAfee files on her machine and see what the file dates tell me. Pam >> > >Hi Pam, > >I just *conjectured* that McAfee might be out of date, because I >assumed it was not a new machine and possibly therefore not a recent >installation of McAfee. If it is a new McAfee installation, then I >would assume (sigh!... there's that word again) that the user is (or >should be) entitled to 12 month's worth of updates. Unfortunately, I >do not use McA, so that supposition on my part might be wrong too. > >Have you tried a McA AV update yet? > >That Guy In Africa... > To unsubscribe from this list send an email to pcductape-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field OR by logging into the Web interface.