Carl, Have you cleaned out your old messages and sent messages etc, to much stuff in your Outlook express folders can cause problems. As for the "old" people - well I guess that is part of being a journalist. Let me ask you - Why do you say that , would you leave your job to be done by a "youngster" if you could do just the same if not better???? As for me - well I'll just paste in something I wrote to another group I am on and you can read all about me [ROTFLMAO] I am just fine here. Have heard a few planes overhead, but that is nothing out of the normal for this area where I live - and I know that the Israeli Air force has locked down the airspace over Israel, so not worried about that at all. I am telling everyone round here the following sentence as my "war" motto [everyone round here being paranoid about falling missiles and what-not] "If you hear a boom, well it is too late, and if you don't hear a boom, then why worry?" - let me explain - If you hear a boom and it is a chemical or biological warhead, the chances of you surviving or not being at the very least "ill/wounded" unless you are in a chemical/biological bunker or wearing full costume anti-chemical/biological equipment are slim, having only a gas mask [like 99.9% of the population will only prevent the gas from entering your lungs - your skin is still unprotected, even if you are in a "closed" room with plastic and duct-taped windows and doors - the blast of the missile in proximity will blow those "protections" to smithereens along with shards of glass been thrown at you etc etc. Being in a normal bunker will of course enhance your ability to survive the boom and a conventional missile fall, but chemical and biological is spread on the air and tends to seek [in average weather conditions] the lowest place - therefore an underground bunker is not the best place to be. IMHO the best to do is just sit and wait - if you do hear a boom and it is not near - figure out where it hit and then quickly move upwind of that area. If it did hit very close by , stay put - wait for the emergency people to show up - they will do so very quickly here in Israel as they have teams spread out all over the country and they will do the best they can for you - it will do no good to spread a biological threat by moving into a clean area - and a chemical one hitting nearby you will need to be attended to immediately in any case. All that having been said - I am really pissed off at the huge waste of money and resources put into this whole effort of "protecting the population" when the threat level is said to be so very very low, the success of just a gas mask is low, the country is in such bad economic situation, and worse yet - there have been a lot of old masks and Atropine syringes been given out during the last refreshment of the gasmasks in Israel. After the Gulf war - all the gas masks in Israel were "refreshed" and everyone changed them once or twice during the last 10 years - on average the filters last about 6-7 years unopened [they work on active charcoal etc which does loose it's effectiveness even unopened, the same for the Atropine chemical syringe]. Two nights ago the public was told to open the boxes and connect filter to mask etc. A lot of people found old stuff in their boxes, broken masks etc etc etc. It has been an ongoing fiasco as during the last 3 months or so a few "mistakes" have been found with the masks etc. Now, having the boxes opened again , means that they will all have to be replaced after the war - yet again - meaning more expenditure of new masks, manpower etc etc. Stupid Stupid Stupid. All this just to pacify people where a huge % of the people already realize that the effort and precautions are useless. Well I'll be getting of the soapbox now - and know I am okay and not in the least worried about the whole story. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TTFN - Vic "To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a little better; whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____ From: pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Friday, 21 March, 2003 12:13 To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Pam, Hi list, Yes I am glued to the TV; I am spending too much time just sitting and watching. What is a really big surprise to me is how many "old" people are in the area (Middle East) doing "Live" reports of the War in Iraq. Olive North for Fox News; Ted Koppel for NBC News; and others I can't remember. Why? Ted Koppel owns a $40 million home in Maryland and probably makes millions in salary each year doing his late night news. Why go to a war zone? Computer: I do have a nagging issue that I live with but I would love to fix. I do a lot of copy & paste from the Internet to Outlook Express. I've noticed lately that about 75% of the time, when I copy from the Internet and then start a new message in Outlook Express and paste the article into Outlook Express and then later I want to add stuff to the message, like my personal remarks, The darn program crashes; not Windows; just Outlook Express. Of course I can reload it but I've lost my message. Anyone with any suggestions? Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam <mailto:ltf01@xxxxxxxxxx> To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: [pcductape] can you hear the pin drop? Wow, it's so quiet here you can hear a pin drop. Is everyone glued to their TV's instead of their computer screens these days? Hey Vic, hows it going over there?