You know what Eric..that may just be the answer I am looking for..Get a system that doesn't require all of these anti this and that...doesn't need them because nothing gets in to the system in the first place... I updated this morning and there was a list of 18 updates ( patches for winXP...Geesh! ----- Original Message ----- From: Eric Skeen To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: [pcductape] Re: avg 6 ending support Hi All, And continuing in this vein... Dump Internet Explorer and use Firefox or Mozilla; since using Moz I have not had any nasties enter my computer for the 6 months or so that I have been using it. Dump Outlook Express in favour of Thunderbird (Mozilla's Email client). http://www.mozilla.org/ That Guy In Africa... My Treetop: http://www.gds.co.za/northcom/ ******************************************** ICQ# 39461303 ~ Greetings from Sunny South Africa ~ ******************************************** -----Original Message----- From: pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Carl Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 10:43 AM To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pcductape] Re: avg 6 ending support Hi Trapper, The free programs I use on a daily basis are: Anti-virus; eTrust; http://www.my-eTrust.com/services Software firewall, eTrust; http://www.my-eTrust.com/services. Photo program, IrFanView; http://www.irfanview.com Ad-Aware, to remove cookies, tracking files; http://www.lavasoftusa.com SpywareBlaster, to prevent spyware; http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/ Spybot-Search&Destroy, to prevent spywear; http://www.spybot.info/en/index.html Carl ctm007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.carlmartininsurance.com