[pcductape] Re: all of Africa

  • From: "Eric Skeen" <northcom@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:40:43 +0200

Hi Vic,

I do not live in a large city, but a smallish one of about 100,000
inhabitants. It is true there are many rape cases in *certain* parts of
Greater Johannesburg (pop. about 5,000,000) which includes the surrounding
non-European areas (I'm trying to be very politically correct here) where
the vast majority of this sort of thing happens. It does not happen any more
in the "European" parts of the city than it would, say, in any other large
cosmopolitan area anywhere else in the world.

Please refer about my earlier remarks regarding Zimbabwe and Mugabe. Zim is
not, never was, and never will be, part & province of South Africa. Both
countries have always been completely independent from day one. The only
common part is we both are part of the Commonwealth. I have only the
uttermost disregard, disrespect and anything else similar for that despot,
Mugabe. In fact, this morning on our "Rude Awakening Show" on Radio
Highveld, the host of the morning radio show managed to find out the name &
address of the B&B who put that mongrel up during his recent (and
unfortunate) visit to SA. He broadcast it for all to listen to. I hopefully
suspect that place will have to shut down pretty soon due to lack of support
for it.

Vic, I am white, I was born & bred in South Africa, been here for 59 years
and I can take it. I will never leave this place, it is in my blood. Like
Australia, it is probably rough & ready at times, but hey, we can take it!
Why don't you take up the challenge and come stay here for some time to
experience first hand what it is like.

That Guy In Africa...
My Treetop: http://www.gds.co.za/northcom/
ICQ#  39461303
~ Greetings from Sunny South Africa ~

  -----Original Message-----
  From: pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Victor Firestone
  Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 10:59 PM
  To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [pcductape] Re: all of Africa

  Allow me to bring up the fact that whites do not feel safe any longer in
many areas of the main cities [personally a friend of mine was attacked and
had her earings ripped out of her ears in Jo'burg]
  Also that Jo'burg is now the rape capitol of the world.
  I'll add just one other point to ponder [and do not say it cannot happen
to us] the whites in Zimbabwe - the transfer of power oh so many years ago
was nice and peaceful and look what just happened not so long ago.

  Eric Skeen wrote:

    HI Vic,

    Well, our balance of trade payments is the largest it's ever been in our
favour, we have just had a most peaceful general election, we're not at war
with our neighbours and things are humming along nicely & peacefully here.
Gold is becoming a no-no, it's becoming too expensive to mine. The Mines are
going deep now, the gold is there, but it's over 3 Km deep and that is the
depth that the Mines have been operating at for some time. Diamonds and
Platinum we have plenty of. We don't have any of our own oil, but we do
successfully convert coal into oil & gas.

    What really gets my goat is people, because they do not know better,
lump us as "Raw Africa". South Africa was originally part of the British
Empire but gained full independence in the early 60's. We have absolutely NO
ties with ANY other country in Africa other than sharing the same continent.
Yet if Nigeria, Kenya, DRY etc does anything stupid, we are all thrown into
one boiling pot because some ignorant overseas politicians seem to think
we're a sort of "United States of Africa". Nothing is further from the

    Perhaps I should change my signature.
    That Guy In Africa...
    My Treetop: http://www.gds.co.za/northcom/
    ICQ#  39461303
    ~ Greetings from Sunny South Africa ~

      -----Original Message-----
      From: pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Victor Firestone
      Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 12:41 AM
      To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [pcductape] Re: all of Africa

      Last I heard Eric - SA itself is not doing so good anymore either,
neither socially nor economically
      Though lucky for you you still have all those gold and diamond mines.

      I have my sources all over SA - believe me

      Eric Skeen wrote:

        Hi Trapper,

        Browsing it now, it reflects Africa overall as a continent. I'll
leave it to you to explain to everyone else that South Africa is only one
country, completely independent, off all and any other African country. You
know, as different as North America, South America, etc...

        We just happen to share the same continent and have two oceans
bordering us, as well as a northern border shared with Namibia, Zimbabwe
(ruled by a %&%^* Tyrant!!), Zambia & Mozambique.  All those countries,
strangely enough, were very prosperous when they were run as various
colonies. And then they acquired independence and all went to h*ll...
Namibia seems to be doing OK now, Mozambique is broke, Zambia is now picking
up the reins once more while Zim has just arrested their Financial Minister
for smuggling Zim$30,000,000 out of his country to build luxury homes here
in SA. Incidentally, their prez, Mugabe, was refused accommodation by two of
our posh hotels here in SA when he was "invited" to attend Prez Mbeki's
inauguration for second term of office. I was so proud of them... He is

        <<Steps off his Soapbox>>

        That Guy In Africa...


TTFN - Vic /

"To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the
affection of children;
 to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false
 to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a
little better;
 whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;
 to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived.


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