Trapper, I always have believed that age is a mindset thingy - and therefore even if I am older than what I once was :), I am still young at heart. I know youngsters here where I live do listen to me when we get to talking, though they don't always agree - which is fine - and if afterwards they find out I was right they do come up and tell me so. The brain is the most powerful muscle in the body !!!!! It can even bend time it seems. Trapper - don't go eat worms - better eat some of that raisin sauce !!!!! Hahahaha ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ TTFN – Vic "To laugh often and much; to win the respect of intelligent people and the affection of children; to earn the appreciation of honest critics and endure the betrayal of false friends; to appreciate beauty, to find the best in others; to leave the world a little better; whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition; to know even one life has breathed easier because you have lived. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _____ From: pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pcductape-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of trapper Sent: Saturday, 01 March, 2003 04:07 To: pcductape@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I sympathize with your plight there Vic...I to have mentioned these programs as well as fix's for the problems..but who listens... it is our destiny in life I guess!. So misunderstood and ignored..:-( I guess no one listens to us old guys anymore...Well your not old..your still a youngster..so I reckon I only speak for myself.. They say if your older than 35 these days your older than dirt and can't be trusted..Computers are a young man's game and these youngster just won't listen. I guess "I will just go out in the garden and eat worms..."