I have looked at both versions of the proposal and do not see any differences. The diagram on page five looks the same and does not indicate that APS, or as they say audible signals, will be installed. Page nine on both proposals lists four benefits of the changes. The third benefit Provides two green pedestrian refuge islands is a real concern for me. If this means DOT intends to paint the street green, as they have done at other pedestrian plazas, it will be meaningless for all blind and visually impaired travelers. We must push for the need to research to determine what material should be used and how it should be used to provide a textured warning. My number one intersection for APS is 24th Street and 3rd Avenue, the west crosswalk. Annalyn -----Original Message----- From: Gene Bourquin DHA <oandmhk@xxxxxxx> To: PASS listserv <passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Feb 28, 2011 4:27 pm Subject: [passcoalition] Re: FW: 7th Avenue/23rd Street Karen, Virtually the only different I see is that more parking is being eliminated in the update presentation. The signaling looks the same. The same single mention of an audible signal. No more information about FDW signal length, nothing on APS placement, etc. It's ten fairly dense pages but that's all I see and I looked pretty carefully. Gene Dr. Eugene A Bourquin _____________________________ DHA, COMS, CI & CT, CLVT Support deafblind children in Guatemala! Go to www.FRIENDSofFUNDAL.org Visit: http://www.bourquinconsulting.com/ From: karen.gourgey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: oandmhk@xxxxxxx CC: passcoalition@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [passcoalition] FW: 7th Avenue/23rd Street Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 20:32:06 +0000 Hi All, Gene and Analynn, Can you tell from the attached PowerPoint whether our suggestions re 7th and 23rd are included in this updated presentation? Thanks. Karen Karen Luxton Gourgey Ed.D., Director Computer Center for Visually Impaired People Baruch College, City University of New York One Bernard Baruch Way, Box H-0648 New York, NY 10010 Phone: (646) 312-1426 Fax: (646) 312-1421 http://www.baruch.cuny.edu/ccvip/ From: Sapolin, Matthew [mailto:MSapolin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 1:44 PM To: Karen Gourgey; Puvogel, Matthew Cc: Piccolo, Robert Subject: FW: 7th Avenue/23rd Street Karen Rob Matt, Please check out the attached and begin to make notes about recommendation to improve access for blind a vissualy impaired travelers. Of course, those changes help all citizens. From: Forgione, Margaret [mailto:mforgione@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 1:47 PM To: Sapolin, Matthew; Puvogel, Matthew Subject: 7th Avenue/23rd Street Please see attached and let me know of any questions/comments.