[pasmembers] Re: Scope Rentals?
- From: Alex Vrenios <axv@xxxxxxx>
- To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2014 11:45:58 -0700
Terri,
The "agreement" is probably a good idea in the long run.
For the record, however, I looked her up online and found out that she works in
Seattle as an accountant. She is a past president of the Seattle Astronomical
Society and is currently one of their trustees.
SAS has a similar arrangement with their members regarding loaner scopes. All
of their scopes are loaned out except two. One is a solar, like William's, and
the other had a bad GPS card. Contacting us (and SAC and EVAC?) was probably a
last resort.
She doesn't look like much of a risk to me :)
Alex
On Oct 3, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, but the scopes, i don't think are ready for borrowing.
> We'd have to ask Bruce and he is out of town this weekend.
>
> Bruce and i are working on setting up a rental agreement, and a fee for
> borrowing, that is returned upon return of the scope in the condition it left
> in. We haven't gotten that done yet but that is one of the goals this school
> year. Since no one has needed or asked, who is a current PAS member, to
> borrow a scope from the club, we haven't gotten it done yet, but I will be
> working with Bruce to get that all figured out.
> We need some paper work saying the scope is ours and it has to come back to
> us in the shape it left, plus have a place to check out eyepieces, etc. And a
> holding fee, probably in cash, in case the scope gets damaged or not
> returned. I believe Bruce has 2 scopes almost ready. At one of the meetings,
> we were discussing repairs of some of the club scopes, and the sale of other
> scopes and parts, and that's all i believe we accomplished so far. A
> discussion, but not a completion of. So, let's get with Bruce to find out the
> status, and I will work on the check out forms.
>
> Terri
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Alex Vrenios <axv@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> If she joins PAS for the year she'll pay $25, which would allow her to
> "borrow" a scope. That membership fee is just about what I would expect to
> pay for a rental scope for a few days.
>
> Alex
>
> On Oct 2, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Terri <starstuff@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Leah (input to your question, not aimed at you, but in response to your
>> question and written for the group to read),
>>
>> When we (a couple of the members and myself) did research to find out if
>> anyone in the Phoenix area, or the USA rented scopes to people, we found
>> that only one place back east did scope rentals to people not in their club.
>>
>> PAS has scopes to borrow, but you have to be a PAS Member to do so, and
>> right now, they may not be ready to borrow, as Bruce is still doing repairs
>> on some of them. Soon as they are ready, members can borrow the scopes, or
>> sets of eyepieces at no cost.
>>
>> However, the idea to go out and do a star party with this gal, is ok, but if
>> it is a private showing, meaning her and the scope person, that has a fee
>> attached. No freebees. And for that, she should go through me to set it up.
>>
>> The other idea is to have her attend, for free, any public event we have
>> coming up around the date she is in town.
>>
>> If anyone in the club wants to lend out their scope, still go through me,
>> because the booking doc is your agreement with Judy, that she will pay you
>> for the use of your scope. Plus, that way there is insurance (liability)
>> just in case. It doesn't replace your scope, though, so if you lend out your
>> scope, even with pay involved, you have to put up with someone who might
>> break something on the scope and PAS insurance doesn't cover that.
>>
>> Personally, no one touches my scope. But, i'd be willing to rent myself out,
>> with a scope, to take her on a night tour, for $$$. As would a few of you.
>>
>> Leah, you can share the above ideas with Judy. And if she wants to borrow
>> someone to give her a night sky tour, have her contact me to set it up. : )
>> I won't be the one doing it, probably Eric or someone else with a larger
>> scope, so she really gets her money worth. But I will need a booking doc
>> from her. And the fee, if you want to let her know is $150 for 2 hours.
>>
>> I read above that she wants to go camping with your scope, should you lend
>> her a scope. That worries me. So much can happen with camping and that could
>> mean leaving the scope out over night at the location and not covering it in
>> the daytime, etc... there are all sorts of factors that "I" will not lend my
>> scope for.
>>
>> Just my thoughts on this. And some of us do not have insurance on our
>> equipment, should something happen to it. I'd be sure it is insured, because
>> if you don't have your equipment, you can't do events for / with PAS until
>> you can afford to replace it.
>>
>> Have a super day, Leah, and everyone reading this!
>> Terri
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:39 PM, LPhxAZ <lphxaz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> does anyone have any suggestions for Judy? (see message below)
>>
>> I don't know if there are any scopes for rent, but maybe someone would like
>> to go out observing with her, and bring a scope.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Judy Wokoun
>> To: Astronomy-Questions@xxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2014 6:19 PM
>> Subject: Scope Rentals?
>>
>> Good evening.
>>
>> I'm a part of the Seattle Astronomical Society in Seattle, WA and I have a
>> trip to Phoenix planned around the new moon in April. I don't trust the
>> airlines at all to handle my scope so I was wondering if there are any
>> places in the area, or possibly even your organization, that rent out scopes
>> for a few days? I plan on camping for a few of the days that I'm there to
>> do some general observing and would love to have a scope as opposed to just
>> binoculars.
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Judy
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Good friends are like stars. You don't always
>> see them, but you always know they are there.
>> Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society Event Coordinator
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> --
> Good friends are like stars. You don't always
> see them, but you always know they are there.
> Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society Event Coordinator
> Visit the P.A.S. Facebook Page & My Facebook Page
> Visit my Music Page: Private Music Instructor & Music Facebook Page
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