[pasmembers] Re: Night Sky Training Event - Your input is requested
- From: Rick Cunningham <phxf1fan@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:18:01 -0700
I am definately interested in this. My knowledge is all self taught and
honestly very incomplete. This will be an excellent training tool.
On Jan 10, 2013 11:56 AM, "AT" <atuk@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Very timely subject. I suspect that as Tim suggested and Eric seconded,
> plus Terri's input, there are many, including my self-taught self, that
> could use some hands on training. We are fortunate to have wonderful
> equipment that can find rare and beautiful objects, and we even learn the
> general quadrant to search in so that when the GPS is distracted we have a
> clue and can realign. ****
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> I will be the first to admit that I learn very little at public star
> parties because I do the same thing over and over, punch in object, go to
> object and try to see through the light pollution. ****
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> This holiday season was a loss for viewing with company, clouds, rain and
> colds. The night that the temperature dropped to below freezing the sky
> was finally clear, the company was leaving the next day, and they wanted to
> see Jupiter, so we did, plus several other objects. We viewed until early
> morning, the sky was clear. ****
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> Since that beautiful night here in Anthem the clouds have rolled through
> on a regular basis and the colds continue to circulate through family
> members.****
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> When all this is cleared up and we are no longer contagious I would like
> to be included in this training event.****
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> Albert****
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> *From:* pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Tim Jones
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 09, 2013 11:41 PM
> *To:* pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [pasmembers] Re: Night Sky Training Event - Your input is
> requested****
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> I agree with Sam here. Especially since I already do this for most
> visitors to our outreach and viewing events because they almost all ask
> "that" question -"how do you know where to look?"****
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> To Eric, I agree that pointers and guidance are useful ( otherwise, Terri
> would have no students), but we need to make sure that finding things is a
> skill learned through doing, not listening to others and that skill takes
> years to become good.****
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> Tim
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> Sent from my iPad****
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> On Jan 9, 2013, at 8:15 PM, insanas@xxxxxxx wrote:****
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> We have so many cancelled star parties because of rain, clouds, wind,
> etc.. I hate to set up a new star party just for this topic. I would be
> happy to take one hour of a regular public star party to work with new pas
> members who want to learn the night sky. I would show them star charts,
> planispheres, messier handouts, telrad charts, setting cirlces,
> constellations charts, sky and telescope planet charts, etc... Once the
> newbies see how an object is found, they can try to find the next object
> and I would help them if they get lost. Anyway, spending one hour at a
> public star party saves setting up a whole separate star party. Take care,
> Sam ****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: pasmembers <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 9, 2013 5:43 pm
> Subject: [pasmembers] Re: Night Sky Training Event - Your input is
> requested****
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> Tim, your point is well taken - you can only learn it ultimately by****
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> doing it. Yet I think there is some validity to the idea. Though it****
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> comes naturally to some of us, others have some difficulty making****
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> overall sense of the sky even with a planisphere, and may not even know****
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> where to start.****
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> Eventually, those with an interest will have to do exactly what you say,****
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> but we can help with some basic explanations, like how to use the****
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> planisphere, the idea of star-hopping or things like the precession of****
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> the stars and the celestial equatorial/polar concept. That along with****
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> some hands-on demos might get people kick-started to do their own****
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> learning.****
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> JM2C****
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> Eric****
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> -----Original Message-----****
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> From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx****
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> [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?>]
> On Behalf Of Tim Jones****
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 3:03 PM****
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> To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx****
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> Subject: [pasmembers] Re: Night Sky Training Event - Your input is****
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> requested****
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> While I appreciate the intent behind this, the only way to learn the****
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> night sky is to get out under it and look up. A session here or there****
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> really is not going to help.****
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> Imagine one of your music students that you only see 2-3 times a year****
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> because their schedule doesn't allow them to practice the instrument****
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> more often. Just how quickly do you think they would learn to master****
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> the instrument? Learning the night sky is very much like learning to****
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> play an instrument. While a bit of guidance will help keep the student****
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> on the proper track, it only practicing regularly that results in the****
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> student learning to play the instrument.****
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> My recommendation for learning the sky - get a Planisphere (either an****
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> app or a real one) and spend evenings looking at the sky and learning****
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> the lay of the land (so to speak). You don't even need a telescope for****
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> that.****
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> Tim****
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