I think that Don's suggestion is more likely. if the binoculars work at all (and maybe there is a problem with them to begin with, as Tim originally suggested - try to use them for viewing a distant object in the daytime), then I think that it is more likely to have a problem holding them steady, than of not being aware that the lens cover needs to be removed. (sure, you never know till you meet the person, but still... I think most people would notice if there is a lens cover that needs to be removed.) I always use a tripod when using binoculars for astronomy. if I'm using them for birdwatching or landscape viewing, it's not so much of a problem to hold them steady enough. but for astronomy they need to be really, really steady, and a tripod is a lot more effective than the other methods (such as leaning your elbows on a fence or on the armrest of a chair). general instructions for use of binoculars: 1) there is usually a focuser knob between the two parts of the binocs, 2) you can bend them to get the proper distance between the two parts, so that the person will see one stereoscopic view; 3) there is usually an adjustment on one of the eyepieces, to adjust the focus for one eye if the person has a different visual ability in their two eyes. to use this, get the binoculars in focus with the main focuser using one eye and one eyepiece, then adjust the other eyepiece for the other eye. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Boyd To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: [pasmembers] Re: June 3 Bookmans' event - help needed with binoculars Another thought is that some people have a great deal of trouble holding them steady at night...I know because I am one of them, even low power 7X35 are difficult for me to hold steady enough. Don On 5/29/2012 6:13 PM, Terri wrote: I'm thinking it is the lens cover she never took off. : ) We will see what she has when she gets there. if anyone does want to help, come join us. If not, Don, William and I will figure it out, now that you made me more confident about it. It works or it doesn't. Ok, i can handle that. Thanks for the input. Terri Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you always know they are there. Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society Event Coordinator Visit the P.A.S. Blog & My Facebook Private Music Instructor, Ascent Vending Company Healthy, Wealthy & Wise with Acai Berry -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:31 PM Subject: [pasmembers] Re: June 3 Bookmans' event - help needed with binoculars Bob- You might have something there. In the old DOS days, I supported a network that had the backup drive in the administrator's workstation. She complained that the backup wasn't working but whenever I checked it seemed fine. I stopped in at the end of the day to watch her load/start the process, which she did perfectly correctly and then.... turned off the machine! Definitely didn't work that way. Eric -----Original Message----- From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Christ Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 1:15 PM To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pasmembers] Re: June 3 Bookmans' event - help needed with binoculars Probably worth the effort to ask if she has removed all of the lens caps? Does she see glass at 4 separate places on the binocs (two ocular, 2 objective). Even if the binocs are out of collimation - images (double) still should be visible. If the lens caps have been removed and she cannot see anything - I doubt we can help. Bob On May 29, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Tim Jones wrote: > While my Sunday's are shot, I can tell you a simple truth about binos - they either work or they don't. If you can see the tree down the street, you'll be able to see the stars. If you can't, they're bad / broken and need to be replaced. > > Not a whole lot to do beyond that. > > Tim > > On May 29, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Terri wrote: > >> Good morning PAS Members, >> >> I"m working on the RSVP's for the next couple weeks of events and >> a lady, Rose, called to see if at the June 3 Bookman's Telescope >> Workshop, we could have someone there to help her with her binoculars. >> Right now, she can't see anything through them. >> >> I know nothing about binoculars. If someone from PAS can be there >> for her, that would be awesome. Please RSVP if you can help. >>